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Author:  Zangetsu [ Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:29 am ]
Post subject:  Awkward Girl
Hi,

I've been using speed seduction for some time now and I've been getting all the results I ever wanted.

Then I met a woman and starded seducing her, I don't know why, but I never used a speed seduction pattern with her... my instinct told me not to... So I seduced her using my touch, anchors, etc... I used language as well, lol, just not patterns.

We starded going out and I broke up with the other women I had. We were together for two months or so, and then she broke up with me, saying that she didn't love me anymore.

A month later, she started going to the same bar I use to go.

The way she looks at me, I can tell that she is totally crazy about me, that particular way she looks at me, I can tell that she loves me. But that's all, she tries to make me jealous when she sees me seducing other women, but when I'm with her, I get no sense of desire coming from her. The only thing I can notice is the way she looks at me, it's something really strong.

Then, I tried to run some speed seduction patterns with her (going against my instincts) , but she always catch me doing it. She doesn't understand what I'm doing, but she knows somewhere in her mind, that I'm doing something and doesn't let me.

This never happened with any woman I seduced using speed seduction.

And I don't understand what she wants, the way she looks at me tells me she is crazy about me, but the way she acts with me, when there's just the two of us doesn't show me anything!

Anyone has any thoughts about what I should do?

Thanks
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:31 pm ]
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im not here to to brag or insult you ... this is only my opinion hopefully we both learn something


.. umm because you manipulated her in feeling attraction ...
she didn't choose 100 % you made her choose by manipulating her with certain patterns and probably NLP.

after a while she decided it wasn't her choice... it was a subconcious choice infuenced by you .

if you want a relationship speed seduction is dumb ... you often get laid to quick and there is too much emotion involved in a short period of time. when you stop using this stuff the they often see your totally different than you presented yourself.

her gaze is strong ? ... you notice the way she looks at you .. ? well again your trying to think for her.

is it a ioi ? yes it is , does it necessarily mean she's attracted ? maybe
does it mean she wants you ? probably not .. not enough

maybe she's staring at you and thinking your an asshole, but again she didn't love you anymore and by now you are making her jealous by gaming other girls in her presence, your manipulating her again.

well if you hook up again she will probably tell you again'' she doesn't love you'' ? why in earth are you concerning about such a person.

give yourself the sexy lady who loves you, cmon don't hang around at this shit. some woman are desperate and some men make them desperate - will that be a good foundation for a relationship ? NO - it usually means'' i take what i get'' and ''i hang around until something better''

stop using NLP on yourself and read this
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This never happened with any woman I seduced using speed seduction.
every woman is different ..... and speed seduction often cause buyers remorse or other adverse feelings, there is just not enough invested by both sides to commit to a serious foundation.

i actually used speed dating and often i met unstabil -insecure- borderline -bipolair like beings who didn't knew what they want, i don't want to hang around such people that's why i don't do speed seduction and that's why i use opinion openers alot.
woman who give you a hard time for the first 2 weeks are of higher value .... the cling-on who dives into bed with you after 2 days is idiocy it's totallly unreliable to share such feelings with someone you don't know enough.
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This never happened with any woman I seduced using speed seduction.
then you really didn't seduct enough woman or you are falling into the same categorie of woman. I discovered much variable results... and many variable people with different opinions and feelings.
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I get no sense of desire coming from her. The only thing I can notice is the way she looks at me, it's something really strong.
maybe she's looking at you and thinking you did the same thing with her ... all those methods and patterns, she is seeing trough you your way transparant.
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Then, I tried to run some speed seduction patterns with her (going against my instincts) , but she always catch me doing it. She doesn't understand what I'm doing, but she knows somewhere in her mind, that I'm doing something and doesn't let me.
if it doesn't feel right you shouldn't do it ... i mean stepping outside your comfort zone is good for your inner game..... but when your gut feeling says it isn't right you shouldn't do it .. im not talking about AA, fear or shyness.
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And I don't understand what she wants, the way she looks at me tells me she is crazy about me, but the way she acts with me, when there's just the two of us doesn't show me anything!
thus she objects to invest.... she doesn't allow you to manipulate her again, i think she's not crazy about you i think she feels attraction but she thinks you are crazy?
how does that sound ? you don't know what she thinks stop preteding your dr.spock or gandalf the grey - you aren't a wizard then stop being one- your totally incongruent.
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Anyone has any thoughts about what I should do?
how about stop asking about confirmation or solutions which im totally unsure of .... i don't know her and i don't know you - your penis knows you and her probably more then i do.

i don't know why you are obsessing over this girl... is it because she's hard to get now ? you want to test your gaming skills on her to get her agian ?

because this is sounding like one-itis ... she didn't love you ... attraction isn't the same as love , and when she's looking at you you are fooling yourself she's into you.

it's your ego telling you what she thinks ...

before the battle generals devise strategies ..... do they read their opponents mind? no .. they just look at the conditions, the terrain weather and history.
and if you battle one enemy too many times he will learn your art of war... that's why she doesn't allow you to game her.

your sounding kinda in the dark .... why in earth would you go after her again ? according to me this is a camouflaged case of one-itis. flick on the lights please.

don't call it speed seduction please ... it's a stupid marketing name for impatient people who find getting laid more important than having fun, results aren't always the same as the follow up.

opening give you a result
gaming give you a result
comfort zone give you a result
and relationship give you a result

and both 4 stages are way different in handling and results... there isn't one big target there are more.

just take you time to know the person .... so you both get what your searching for and get emotionally involved. and stop the manipulating .... you don't need to do that .. just develop your inner game.

what you should do ?

stop asking these silly question.. you already told us the result of your whole speed seduction program and it sucked.
go to the gym ... work out ... go sarging alone and talk to some woman, soon you will forget her and find out she's no good anyway.
Author:  bdub [ Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:29 pm ]
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It seems we always are attracted to what is in low abundance. If she were like every other girl, you woud have less interest in her. This girl maybe odd but there is a reason for that. She may just be giving you the eye to stop you from gaming other girls in the bar. Why don't you try hitting up some bars that she doesn't go to? Maybe meet some new people. Also day game is much better if you're looking for a LTR, in my opinion anyways.
Best of luck.
Author:  bdub [ Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:14 pm ]
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It seems we always are attracted to what is in low abundance. If she were like every other girl, you woud have less interest in her. This girl maybe odd but there is a reason for that. She may just be giving you the eye to stop you from gaming other girls in the bar. Why don't you try hitting up some bars that she doesn't go to? Maybe meet some new people. Also day game is much better if you're looking for a LTR, in my opinion anyways.
Best of luck.
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