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Women typically are more fickle about "he said, she said" but come on . . . if you're a good lay, she'll toss everything else out the window to get back on the pony ride.

If it wasn't this "trust thing" or whatever you think it was, it would have been your ugly brown pants, you cousin's taste in music, the colder than usual weather when you're around or whatever. She would have made something up. This "excuse" is a good one. Let her have it and walk away like a man.

Stop lying in general. Honesty/sincerity is pretty much the most seductive tool a PUA can use. Don't just USE honesty. BECOME consistently honest.

Why honesty is attractive in PUA terms:

When you're being unapologetically honest, even when it can make you potentially lose the girl, it's a DHV because:
1. Willingness to take risks is a classic DHV spike.
2. You're demonstrating that being consistent with your own values is more important than anything else (masculine polarity).

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You know you have a real knack for coming into a thread and blowing everyone's else's shit out of the water?

Author:	BigJohn [ Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:00 am ]
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I was sarging a HB10, and established an open relationship with her. I made the mistake of lying to her about seeing somebody else. I lied about going away on business while actually going on a trip arranged by another MLTR I'm seeing. I could not lie to her when she pressed me about the trip, and she told me that she's not impressed about my lying to her. She expressed mostly that she disliked my dishonesty, and could not trust me any more regardless of the fact that we were having an open relationship. She said that she also has lovers, but that my lies ruined it for her. It looked like she was about to dump me, so i dumped her immediately. I've waited the 3 months (no contact) and tried to re-establish contact with her so that we can become FB's, but I'm not sure how to proceed. I really want her back in my bed, because she loves sex and the times we had together were awesome, but I don't want to give up my other HB. I also don't know how to re-gain her trust again. Any advice guys?

Author:	Bronco [ Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:52 am ]
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hold on. so by admitting you were seeing another lover, she then told you she had lovers? how are you at fault exactly?

Author:	kasabi [ Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:20 am ]
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Sounds to me as if she was waiting for any type of dumb excuse to get you off her list.

Author:	SiNfUl [ Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:33 pm ]
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She expressed mostly that she disliked my dishonesty, and could not trust me any more regardless of the fact that we were having an open relationship. She said that she also has lovers, but that my lies ruined it for her If there is one thing that will kill any attraction or interest in a girl, it's dishonesty. Being lied to or deceived is a huge deal for them. Always, always be upfront and honest with them, even if the truth pisses them off, they will at least respect you. And you will be surprised at what a girl will let slide, or overlook if you're honest (i speak from experience). The lovers statement, might have been a reaction to your deceit. If you can raise her IL back up, you might have another shot.

Author:	Camacho [ Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:59 pm ]
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Quick question, what is IL? I've seen it in another thread and I've been trying to deduce the acronym but no luck so far. Thanks

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Author:	SiNfUl [ Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:36 pm ]
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Interest Level

Author:	BigJohn [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:47 am ]
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Thank you for your comments. I also get the feeling that trust was the big issue here, since we've been quite open about seeing other people. I'm wondering what I could use to raise her IL again? Any tips/hints?

Author:	SiNfUl [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:05 pm ]
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My suggestion...let it go.

Author:	kasabi [ Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:33 am ]
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Women typically are more fickle about "he said, she said" but come on . . . if you're a good lay, she'll toss everything else out the window to get back on the pony ride. If it wasn't this "trust thing" or whatever you think it was, it would have been your ugly brown pants, you cousin's taste in music, the colder than usual weather when you're around or whatever. She would have made something up. This "excuse" is a good one. Let her have it and walk away like a man.

Author:	Synckpua [ Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:07 am ]
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move on sir... o r just kick it with her one night and remind her of old times the fun parts the non lying parts then lead her to the ride

Author:	Chief [ Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:54 pm ]
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Stop lying in general. Honesty/sincerity is pretty much the most seductive tool a PUA can use. Don't just USE honesty. BECOME consistently honest. Why honesty is attractive in PUA terms: When you're being unapologetically honest, even when it can make you potentially lose the girl, it's a DHV because: 1. Willingness to take risks is a classic DHV spike. 2. You're demonstrating that being consistent with your own values is more important than anything else (masculine polarity).

Author:	TheLegend [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:56 am ]
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Quote: Women typically are more fickle about "he said, she said" but come on . . . if you're a good lay, she'll toss everything else out the window to get back on the pony ride. If it wasn't this "trust thing" or whatever you think it was, it would have been your ugly brown pants, you cousin's taste in music, the colder than usual weather when you're around or whatever. She would have made something up. This "excuse" is a good one. Let her have it and walk away like a man. so true. ha

Author:	Superunknown [ Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:21 pm ]
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Quote: Stop lying in general. Honesty/sincerity is pretty much the most seductive tool a PUA can use. Don't just USE honesty. BECOME consistently honest. Why honesty is attractive in PUA terms: When you're being unapologetically honest, even when it can make you potentially lose the girl, it's a DHV because: 1. Willingness to take risks is a classic DHV spike. 2. You're demonstrating that being consistent with your own values is more important than anything else (masculine polarity). You know you have a real knack for coming into a thread and blowing everyone's else's shit out of the water?

Author:	Masterlock [ Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:04 am ]
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Quote: Quote: Stop lying in general. Honesty/sincerity is pretty much the most seductive tool a PUA can use. Don't just USE honesty. BECOME consistently honest. Why honesty is attractive in PUA terms: When you're being unapologetically honest, even when it can make you potentially lose the girl, it's a DHV because: 1. Willingness to take risks is a classic DHV spike. 2. You're demonstrating that being consistent with your own values is more important than anything else (masculine polarity). You know you have a real knack for coming into a thread and blowing everyone's else's shit out of the water? See: the "Super Moderator" status

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