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Author:  David~ [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Our Secret Power over Women
Pick up is great. You get to meet new people, start friendships and woe women into giving you phone numbers and getting kiss closes. But when it comes to holding onto a woman, things get trickier. Women have the orbiters, they have the ovaries and vagina and we have only 1 way to keep them around. Sexual pleasure.

Leadership, alpha characteristics, and value can only get you so far when holding onto someone you picked up. Theres plenty of guys out there with that, so keeping someone around requires, in a barbaric tone, awesome-fucking-sex.

If you can make a girl squeal for your cock, she'll always come back for more. If you can pound her and stack her with orgasms she'll always be in a brighter mood and overlook the little flaws. This is our dominance over women. The segregation between the spineless and true alphas.

If you are confident in the bedroom, you will have a newfound confidence about you that women will automatically sense. This is probably one of the biggest inner game boosters out there (staying in a positive mental state is another one);knowing and having the ability to turn a girl on and pleasure her. If you're an epic failure in the bedroom I can almost promise you that you'll have problems in the relationship. If you can stack the girl with orgasms she'll put more value on you and follow your lead (if you also set the pace that way).

Just a key reminder on how to hold onto a woman. For myself and you guys (I recently met someone and it's fucking awesome). Although its long distance I did a lot of heavy anchoring and we have like, the sickest phone sex you could imagine. She isn't going anywhere anytime soon :D.
Author:  Ezo [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:31 pm ]
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Hey Beschatten,

Normally I agree with your posts but here I have to disagree.
There is not only one thing that can make you keep a woman. Sex is important, true! However, if you are a really nice and interesting guy that can make them feel good around you, they are gonna stick around as well. Women like to feel good and if you match with her (she gives you what you need and you give her what she needs) chances are that you will go into a LTR.

This is the reason why your game can be awsome but only give you one night stands... If you on the other hand take the opportunity to improve and become a person you can be proud of, a really awesome guy, then your game will take you even further.

Ezo
Author:  Zip [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:42 pm ]
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Uh, I'm going to have to suck up all my pride here and agree that sex is what keeps us around.

Look, it's nice that you're not an asshole, that you're smart, cute, funny, attractive, bla bla bla. However, if the sex seems to be stale, we get bored. Or go crazy and make you break up with us.

Maybe it's not just about the sex, and there is always an ebb and flow to the sexual prowess of a couple. It just seems that when I start to subconsciously become less attracted to someone, little things start to bug me, and the sex seems lackluster.

Which came first, the chicken on the egg? Which dies out first, the attraction or the good sex?
Author:  David~ [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:03 pm ]
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This is where I say "I told ya so"

Getting her to emotionally invest in you is how you hook her. Fucking her brains out is how you get her addicted.

Not that it doesn't mean I dont reward her or do nice things, I'm just saying sexually pleasing her will give her that 'ooy gooy lovey dovey feeling' that will keep her coming back for more.
Author:  friendofafriend [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:16 pm ]
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er ya this is true. i can always get that sweet guy all around good feelin from a best friend. but if you can kiss and then some......then the package is complete. besides what else do we have to brag about to our friends...the sweet flowers or the grreat sex. haha
Author:  jurupa [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:17 pm ]
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I agree that sex does play a role in a relationship. But I don't think it is the only thing that will keep a girl around. How many girls out there would fuck an old guy like Donald Trump, who is 63 years old? I don't doubt he is on the little blue pill. My point is if the guy's value is high enough or his bank account is big enough a lot of girls will stay around even if the sex sucks.
Author:  Fin [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:48 pm ]
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I disagree beschatten, christian couples don't have sex and can stay together for ages before they get married and have sex.

Sex is one aspect, if you can provide good sex, that's a reason to stick around, but by no means not the only one needed to keep a girl sticking around.
Author:  David~ [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:56 am ]
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Women will stick around if you're a Donald Trump, but they'll definately cheat. Sex is a physical need, and if you want to get into Biblical terms, God created it as a gift for a husband and wife to share together. (For those of you curious as to why the Bible considers pre-marital sex a sin, well in simple terms when you have sex with someone you create a spiritual attachment to them and it can really hinder your spiritual growth. It also goes somewhat into how this isn't fair for your future spouse. I'm not going to go into it anymore though since I'm not a pastor and it isn't my place to speak religion in a PUA thread).

And as for all the value and nice shit that follows up with keeping a girl, yeah I totally agree all that is needed as well. But if you want to put it in simpler terms, if you can't pleasure her sexually, she is most likely going to cheat. No argument on that. And what does cheating result in? A break up. Unless your a pathetic AFC.

And as for Christian couples, lets face it, they sin. I grew up in the church for 18 years and hold a strong knowledge on it. Some stay virgins some don't. For the ones that do, they have God holding the relationship together and have a mutual faith that God will keep it together. Unless you can create that with a non-religious girl, best of luck.
Author:  Poisson [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Our Secret Power over Women
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If you can stack the girl with orgasms she'll put more value on you and follow your lead (if you also set the pace that way).
Any tips on stacking? Most girls seem to come down a bit after the first, and building back up to any second is hard and rare, let alone stacking them...

P
Author:  Poisson [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:38 pm ]
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Any tips on stacking? Most girls seem to come down a bit after the first, and building back up to any second is hard and rare, let alone stacking them...
You anchor the orgasm to a certain place you touch, a certain verbal command, or any other trigger. The stronger the anchor becomes, the better it gets at making her orgasm with less and less physical stimulation. Eventually the anchor itself can make her orgasm without having to physically stimulate the area. I.E. Orgasm from verbal command like saying "Come Now" and she does.
Wow, sounds potint. Can you give me a more detailed exmaple?

P
Author:  Bonita [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:12 pm ]
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Obviously the sex is key and if you give the women the best sex of her life, she will go crazy for you.

But Zip brings up a good point with her "chicken and egg" metaphor...does a good emotional relationship lead to great sex? And can you have great sex with a poor emotional realtionship? I don't think they are mutually exclusive....but then again it is possible to have great sex during a one night stand (in which very little emotional bond is made). So who knows.
Author:  Zip [ Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:07 pm ]
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Obviously the sex is key and if you give the women the best sex of her life, she will go crazy for you.

But Zip brings up a good point with her "chicken and egg" metaphor...does a good emotional relationship lead to great sex? And can you have great sex with a poor emotional realtionship? I don't think they are mutually exclusive....but then again it is possible to have great sex during a one night stand (in which very little emotional bond is made). So who knows.
Here's the thing, for a one night stand... you have to look at the brain. This is why one night stands work... The two halves of the brain (emotional and logical) completely separate. The emotional side amps up to 100% while the logical level goes down to 0%. There is a strong emotional bond during GOOD SEX (not bad one sex) in a one night stand.... but it's transient.

The next morning, the logical side neutralizes to above normal 70% while the emotional decreases to 30%. This is why it's all awkward in the morn.

Point being, there is an emotional connection during a one night stand, and it's strong, but it's only going to last for a second. It's like building a house out of toothpicks. It's a house, but it's not going to last.
Author:  Swede-Sven [ Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:06 pm ]
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I have to agree with Hobbit. I had a friend of mine tell me before I even heard about any of this stuff that -

emotional connection without sexual connection = friend

sexual connection without emotional connection = fuck buddy

emotional connection and sexual connection = relationship.

Idk but i think that to be in a functioning relationship you really can't have one without the other if your being true to yourself and to her.
Author:  sexomaniac [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:22 am ]
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Beschatten hit the nail right in the hole.
Author:  Cohath [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:15 pm ]
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The stronger your emotional relationship is, the better your sex life with your BF/GF will be. The same is true of the opposite (in most cases; there's an exception to every rule). It's like an equation, and it's not hard. It's about satisfying needs between both partners. Everyone has sexual desires; that too is a need. You can't have one without the other, not if you want something that is both special and lasting. Who can agree that having sex with someone you love is so much better than having sex with someone you like (or just picked up for a one night stand)?
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