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Author:  Zwiastun [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Can a girl change that much and so fast?
Hi guys
I recently had something with my GF that I can not even try to understand. We were an amazingly happy and loving couple, than some days ago we had an argue. After 8 months she told me something like ,,if we're too lazy to visit each other than maybe we should never see each other again?". When I asked back ,,Is that what you'd like?" she said ,,Yeeeeees".

I decided to not contact her for like 3-4 days, punishment eh, after which she facebookly unboyfriended me and started saying things like ,,I never want to see you again! Dissappear from my life! I will never, ever be with you again! You're the biggest mthrfckn bastard the world has ever seen, etc. etc."

I met her mother hours later and she told me that my gf was crying all days long since my silence, she wasn't even able to put some food on a plate after those 3 days, and is on some strong anty-psycho pills.

Still not knowing what the **** I did, I visited her after her fitness, marching 8km. With tears in my eyes I was like, I still love you more than anyone else in the world, I want to share all my days with you, if something was wrong just tell me...

Her face was perfectly poker with a simple smile, say what you want, I simply don't care, and never again will - she said. Gave me a cigarette and left me there, as she had a party waiting. I mean... few days ago she was crying, telling me that she's never been so happy, thinking about children, moving in together, that for her, I am completly perfect. Than such a stupid argue and... wait, what? Staring in my eyes without any trace of emotion, slightly smiling, and so impossibly not giving a shit about my feelings or things I had to say?

That was a few hours ago. She came back home and didn't even text or FB'd me to say anything like ,,You'll be fine". Is such change even possible? From loving so much to not hating, but trying to literally destroy someone with whom you were putting your future together a few days ago?

I've lost some brilliant relationships in my life, but fault was mine, and I knew why. But now? I simply don't even have a smallest clue...
Author:  R.C [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a girl change that much and so fast?
Women can have their ego rampages just like men sometimes can.

She'll pray to ancient gods that you call her after an argument and then when you do she won't pick up the phone. Then proceed to cry herself to sleep.

If you play this game with her there ain't no way that you'll win. You only win by not playing.

Move on with your life. Start doing you again. Go about your hobbies, work, friends, whatever. Just do not contact her again. It's easy at first when she's constantly bombarding you with messages, the real challenge is if she stops.

Anyway, if you ever want there to exist chance that you end up back together, that's the only way. Regardless of what she says, if you start making all these grand demonstrations of love, it will repel her.

She needs to feel that by ending this relationship SHE loses something, not that YOU lose something.

I know it's hard. But I've seen you story a million times on this forum and it has never worked out for anyone who thought they "know better" and decided to ignore quality advice.

Choice is yours, I hope you do the right thing.
Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a girl change that much and so fast?
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Hi guys
I recently had something with my GF that I can not even try to understand. We were an amazingly happy and loving couple, than some days ago we had an argue. After 8 months she told me something like ,,if we're too lazy to visit each other than maybe we should never see each other again?". When I asked back ,,Is that what you'd like?" she said ,,Yeeeeees".
This seems to me like a test.

In technical terms she is giving you an ioi, hoping that you will ioi in return (saying the relationship is important to you and always worth the effort). Instead, you iod by punishing her and not seeing her for days.

IMO go back and sincerely apologize but like a man. If she leaves ok, if not that's cool too, but be open to that and let her know.
Author:  neo87 [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a girl change that much and so fast?
Freeze outs don't work in relationships. What was the argument about?
Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a girl change that much and so fast?
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Freeze outs don't work in relationships. What was the argument about?
They do, if done correctly.
Author:  R.C [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a girl change that much and so fast?
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This seems to me like a test.

In technical terms she is giving you an ioi, hoping that you will ioi in return (saying the relationship is important to you and always worth the effort). Instead, you iod by punishing her and not seeing her for days.

IMO go back and sincerely apologize but like a man. If she leaves ok, if not that's cool too, but be open to that and let her know.
What the fuck.

Girls giving ioi's in relationship.
Tests in relationships.
Iod in relationships.

What
The
Fuck
Author:  Zwiastun [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a girl change that much and so fast?
Very big thak you guys.

I know it's usually best to move on, but since I started reading Cody's articles about ,,Do you really want your ex?" I realise that she was quite perfect for me (excluding latest actions ofc), and because I don't un-love somebody too fast I was wondering if there's anything I can do, and how is that possible that she did it just like puff.

Worst thing is - that she mentioned our silly fights, like when I said that we should do more jogging, as she was dying after like 200m, and other not important stuff. Not talking about it at the moment it occured but later on like ,,It's enought! I wasn't saying anything but it all gathered together and now there is nothing you can do! That does it! I don't want to hear your fkin explanations!" Eh

At this point I'm afraid there is absolutly nothing that I can do, despite how much I want it. I suppose only way to heal myself is to get back in game.

Funny thing is, that I belieave I've changed. Realised my mistakes, small argues that eventually mattered and told her - It was so perfect at some point. Now I'm the same person you were so happy with, but without those argues, without my mean talks, without all that was not ok for you. So how can it still be not enought? What do you want Van? (Vanessa)
- I never want to see you again! Blah blah blah!

Neo, argue before was about embarassing me in front of my friends, when she tried to explain a behaviour of a girl that fked some black guy in a bathroom during proposal night with her boyfriend.

All in all, only option is to move on, as I don't belieave ignoring her and living a joyfull life will do any result. Just a stupid thing, that it does not seem that I will ever find a true and logical reason of her hating me now.

Thanks guys. See you in a battlefield.
Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a girl change that much and so fast?
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Quote:
This seems to me like a test.

In technical terms she is giving you an ioi, hoping that you will ioi in return (saying the relationship is important to you and always worth the effort). Instead, you iod by punishing her and not seeing her for days.

IMO go back and sincerely apologize but like a man. If she leaves ok, if not that's cool too, but be open to that and let her know.
What the fuck.

Girls giving ioi's in relationship.
Tests in relationships.
Iod in relationships.

What
The
Fuck
Every communication, ever in the world is an iod or an ioi. And yes she does test you in a relationship.
Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:22 pm ]
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All in all, only option is to move on, as I don't belieave ignoring her and living a joyfull life will do any result. Just a stupid thing, that it does not seem that I will ever find a true and logical reason of her hating me now.

Thanks guys. See you in a battlefield.
Do this man, good to have you back out and in the future, try not to ever fight with women.
Author:  Eddie Fews [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a girl change that much and so fast?
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This seems to me like a test.

In technical terms she is giving you an ioi, hoping that you will ioi in return (saying the relationship is important to you and always worth the effort). Instead, you iod by punishing her and not seeing her for days.

IMO go back and sincerely apologize but like a man. If she leaves ok, if not that's cool too, but be open to that and let her know.
What the fuck.

Girls giving ioi's in relationship.
Tests in relationships.
Iod in relationships.

What
The
Fuck
Lol

Some of these guys just can't shake it off.
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a girl change that much and so fast?
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I recently had something with my GF that I can not even try to understand. We were an amazingly happy and loving couple, than some days ago we had an argue. After 8 months she told me something like ,,if we're too lazy to visit each other than maybe we should never see each other again?". When I asked back ,,Is that what you'd like?" she said ,,Yeeeeees".
Yes, this was a giant shit test, your manly hood against some other swinging dick, and her playing the part of high court judge.

You are sentenced to never see her pussy again, unless SHE grants a pardon.

Don't wait for it.
Author:  JackZero [ Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a girl change that much and so fast?
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Freeze outs don't work in relationships. What was the argument about?
They do, if done correctly.
Elaborate
Author:  DW-Heart-Charmer [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a girl change that much and so fast?
Quote:
Quote:
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Freeze outs don't work in relationships. What was the argument about?
They do, if done correctly.
Elaborate
It's called a soft next, it started with the original fast seduction-the one Style was on. See here as it was re-posted after fastseduction went away:

http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php? ... -questions

For those who won't read it. It is based on the concept of men love sex and women love attention. For example, she is blatantly disrespectful to you in front of your friends. You end the date and don't talk to her for 5 days. Absolutely no communication, after you resume things like normal.

You need a few things for this to work:
-killer sex game
-outcome independence-she can leave and you will be okay and she knows it
-more I'm sure but I forget


I have field tested extensively, she is an angel after.
Author:  neo87 [ Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a girl change that much and so fast?
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Very big thak you guys.

I know it's usually best to move on, but since I started reading Cody's articles about ,,Do you really want your ex?" I realise that she was quite perfect for me (excluding latest actions ofc), and because I don't un-love somebody too fast I was wondering if there's anything I can do, and how is that possible that she did it just like puff.

Worst thing is - that she mentioned our silly fights, like when I said that we should do more jogging, as she was dying after like 200m, and other not important stuff. Not talking about it at the moment it occured but later on like ,,It's enought! I wasn't saying anything but it all gathered together and now there is nothing you can do! That does it! I don't want to hear your fkin explanations!" Eh

At this point I'm afraid there is absolutly nothing that I can do, despite how much I want it. I suppose only way to heal myself is to get back in game.

Funny thing is, that I belieave I've changed. Realised my mistakes, small argues that eventually mattered and told her - It was so perfect at some point. Now I'm the same person you were so happy with, but without those argues, without my mean talks, without all that was not ok for you. So how can it still be not enought? What do you want Van? (Vanessa)
- I never want to see you again! Blah blah blah!

Neo, argue before was about embarassing me in front of my friends, when she tried to explain a behaviour of a girl that fked some black guy in a bathroom during proposal night with her boyfriend.

All in all, only option is to move on, as I don't belieave ignoring her and living a joyfull life will do any result. Just a stupid thing, that it does not seem that I will ever find a true and logical reason of her hating me now.

Thanks guys. See you in a battlefield.
Details are missing here. So she was explaining some girl's cheating...how did that embarass you? Also, is that the kinda woman you want...that's a side note. In your first post on this thread you say she mentions you 2 visiting each other and problems with that. Is this a LDR? What's the deal with the visiting situation?

Better to give a lot of details on what the issues were and how the fights happened, than that the relationship was good and the stuff with her mom. That later stuff is mostly irrelevant.
Author:  Zwiastun [ Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Can a girl change that much and so fast?
Well, I did all I fkn could yesterday to see her in my place for like an hour, as she was nearby. I finally could tell her what I wanted, some gay stuff i suppose but I was kinda happy to let go of all I wanted to say. She started crying, and when I mentioned that I just want a normal ,,Farewell", not ,,Never talk to me again!" she said something that kinda punched me really hard.

She began to wonder like ,,I don't know what to do with this.. I must think... If I'll be back with you..."

but than

,,The thing is... I don't feel the same like before... it's kinda different now, when you said you have three days off and looking for a company on FB something broke within me...*"

* Some fkn stupid missunderstanding as always. She said she does not want to see me, I've posted that I have 3 days off work hoping that she'll do stg with it, but she received it as my totally ,,I don't give a fk about you"

Well, she kissed me a few times, she was crying, but still strong. I told her everything I wanted and that I don't want to push her, but I think we deserve a chance. Told her to sleep it over and if she'd like that, contact me, that I'm not gonna stalk her or text her anymore, that I told what I wanted, I don't have anything else. I got my lesson, I'm a different person now, but if she thinks ,,it's not the same anymore..." well... I don't find any kind of game or test in that, so if she didn't reply, despite how much I do not want that, have to move on.

Sad thing, I had some good relationships in my life but this one was like, well, the one I wanted to be the last. See you in the field.



EDIT: Huuuuuh, I told her that it's good to move on and that we might go clubbing some time. She replied that not really cause well... I actually met someone already. Whoa... twas fast... really fast... fuck... -.-
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