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Author:  Pajo [ Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Probably nothing

Hey guys,

I just need some quick advice, just to be sure that I'm on the right way.
So I'm in this relationship for 2 years.

I've send her this funny picture and said that so her, (the picture was about girls these days on instagram who tag almost everything they do).

This was our conversation

Her: Haha, you don't know me at all. (monkeyface)
Me: Haha, yea sure, I know you better then you think.
Her: No, you only see the bad things about me.
Me: Then show me your "good" side.
Her: I've showed you them, too bad.
Me: Next time show them better.
Her: I like the way I am, I don't want to change myself.
Me: I didn't ask you to change yourself. Anyways, I'm going to sleep. (It was like 2 AM)

She responded like 20 minutes later with: Goodnight babe kiss.

Normaly she sends me a morning message but this time she didn't.
I didn't send her a message either, I kind of waited for her to send it.
And now I'm kinda thinking to call her, just to talk a bit and ask what she's been up to. (We are in a long distant relationship).

It's probably nothing but hey, I thought I wanted to share this with you guys and hear your opinion.
For me it's important to be in the game even when you're in a relationship.

Thanks in advance, and goodluck gaming!

Author:  masterm1ne [ Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

Quote:
Her: Haha, you don't know me at all. (monkeyface)
Me: Haha, yea sure, I know you better then you think.
Her: No, you only see the bad things about me.
Me: Then show me your "good" side.
Her: I've showed you them, too bad.
Me: Next time show them better.
Her: I like the way I am, I don't want to change myself.
Me: I didn't ask you to change yourself. Anyways, I'm going to sleep. (It was like 2 AM)

She responded like 20 minutes later with: Goodnight babe kiss.
Could you be more specific about what the picture was? Hard to understand what prompted this back and forth... but regardless...

It's a basic conversational skill to for the most part avoid themes that are not positive (Mystery and gang termed it, "negative thread").

You didn't outright argue with her, but you essentially created distance between each other by saying you don't know each other that well. Not only that but you kept pressing the issue... ie "Show me them better." You should've changed the topic before then. How would you feel if someone close to you says "You're not doing a good job" and "you need to do a better job." You put her in a very low emotional state... People rarely like to be told their wrong.

It's really essential to be positive no matter what. I was on a date last night and my date made a nasty face at the waitress when she asked some probing questions of me. Instead of saying "Don't do that!" to her (negative), I said, "I agree with you that was a little much!."

Seek out "Alpha Man Conversation" By Carlos Xuma.

Author:  Eddie Fews [ Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

Over thinking.

Author:  Pajo [ Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

Quote:
Could you be more specific about what the picture was? Hard to understand what prompted this back and forth... but regardless...

It's a basic conversational skill to for the most part avoid themes that are not positive (Mystery and gang termed it, "negative thread").

You didn't outright argue with her, but you essentially created distance between each other by saying you don't know each other that well. Not only that but you kept pressing the issue... ie "Show me them better." You should've changed the topic before then. How would you feel if someone close to you says "You're not doing a good job" and "you need to do a better job." You put her in a very low emotional state... People rarely like to be told their wrong.

It's really essential to be positive no matter what. I was on a date last night and my date made a nasty face at the waitress when she asked some probing questions of me. Instead of saying "Don't do that!" to her (negative), I said, "I agree with you that was a little much!."

Seek out "Alpha Man Conversation" By Carlos Xuma.
The picture was an instagram picture about a girl eating a banana and it was like making fun of it because the girl tagged a lot of things for example: #banana #eatinghealthy #eatingfruit #fruit #Ilovebanana etc. etc.

In my eyes she was talking nonsense because I did not ever told her something like that nor did I show it to her. That's why i reacted like that.
She also told me a while ago that I always responded slowely and that didn't give her enough attention. Now I started to react a bit faster and give a her a bit more attention but like I said, a BIT.

What do you suggest me to do on these two things:

Should I call her?
Should I give her more attention than I did before?

Thanks in advance.

Author:  Pajo [ Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

Quote:
Over thinking.
Yea I guess you're right, altough I didn't think about it the whole day.
I just came home and wanted to start doing some work and that's when she popped up in my mind.

Author:  Eddie Fews [ Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

Quote:
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Over thinking.
Yea I guess you're right, altough I didn't think about it the whole day.
I just came home and wanted to start doing some work and that's when she popped up in my mind.
How often do you see her?

Author:  Pajo [ Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

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Over thinking.
Yea I guess you're right, altough I didn't think about it the whole day.
I just came home and wanted to start doing some work and that's when she popped up in my mind.
How often do you see her?

Since we are in a long distance relationship once a month for a week.
Altough I'm this summer we're going to spend a lot of time together.

Author:  masterm1ne [ Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

Quote:

In my eyes she was talking nonsense ...

She also told me .... that didn't give her enough attention.
Doesn't matter what your opinion of her statement is. Keep it positive. Even if it's completely false! Women don't operate on much of a logical level anyway. They won't yield to logical arguments...

As far as attention goes, reciprocate! If she takes a few hours, take a few hours. If she texts you back within a min, try to if you can!

Of course you can call, but don't call more than once if she doesn't answer. Again, reciprocate.

Author:  Pajo [ Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

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In my eyes she was talking nonsense ...

She also told me .... that didn't give her enough attention.
Doesn't matter what your opinion of her statement is. Keep it positive. Even if it's completely false! Women don't operate on much of a logical level anyway. They won't yield to logical arguments...

As far as attention goes, reciprocate! If she takes a few hours, take a few hours. If she texts you back within a min, try to if you can!

Of course you can call, but don't call more than once if she doesn't answer. Again, reciprocate.
That's true, women don't think logical, I totally forgot that. About the attention part: That's what I'm doing exactly.
Gosh, women are some weird beings but you can't life without them.

Thanks for the information!

Author:  R.C [ Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

She's fucking another guy.














Joking.


I really don't condone LDRs. Have fun this summer but you may wanna break it off it this LDR status doesn't change soon.


Anyway, you're overthinking the whole next morning message thing. At the same time she doesn't seem entirely happy. When women take an obvious joke to this kind of semi-deep level they have something they're not pleased with, emotionally speaking. This applies to long term relationships, not 2-3 weeks in.


Personally I don't think it's something to worry about per se, just be aware of what's up.

Author:  HugoMoreno [ Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

It's probably a frame control thing

Women always try to take back the "control"
of the relationship...and they do it by
doing little shit test..like what you
just mentioned...hold your ground

text her later with something playful
like

"So why haven't you checked in today"

Author:  Pajo [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

Quote:
It's probably a frame control thing

Women always try to take back the "control"
of the relationship...and they do it by
doing little shit test..like what you
just mentioned...hold your ground

text her later with something playful
like

"So why haven't you checked in today"
Yea I guess, she's still acting kind of weird.
Responding really slowely, sometimes it takes like a day.
Now I do just the same, respond once a day since she's doing the same. But the funny thing is that she's the first one who starts a conversation.

Author:  Eddie Fews [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

Quote:
Quote:
It's probably a frame control thing

Women always try to take back the "control"
of the relationship...and they do it by
doing little shit test..like what you
just mentioned...hold your ground

text her later with something playful
like

"So why haven't you checked in today"
Yea I guess, she's still acting kind of weird.
Responding really slowely, sometimes it takes like a day.
Now I do just the same, respond once a day since she's doing the same. But the funny thing is that she's the first one who starts a conversation.
If you're going to play games you'll have to play harder. Don't play her game.. Thats how you lose. You can't win the game of someone else creation. You train her by taking things a step further if you have no other solution. She takes 24 hours to text you, you don't text her back at all. She'll text you back within a shorter time.

You're losing her because you're driving up behind her on a one way street trying to get ahead. Pick your own road. Try not responding at all and you'll see an instant shift in behavior.

That or just get out of it.

Author:  neo87 [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

Quote:
Hey guys,

I just need some quick advice, just to be sure that I'm on the right way.
So I'm in this relationship for 2 years.

I've send her this funny picture and said that so her, (the picture was about girls these days on instagram who tag almost everything they do).

This was our conversation

Her: Haha, you don't know me at all. (monkeyface)
Me: Haha, yea sure, I know you better then you think.
Her: No, you only see the bad things about me.
Me: Then show me your "good" side.
Her: I've showed you them, too bad.
Me: Next time show them better.
Her: I like the way I am, I don't want to change myself.
Me: I didn't ask you to change yourself. Anyways, I'm going to sleep. (It was like 2 AM)

She responded like 20 minutes later with: Goodnight babe kiss.

Normaly she sends me a morning message but this time she didn't.
I didn't send her a message either, I kind of waited for her to send it.
And now I'm kinda thinking to call her, just to talk a bit and ask what she's been up to. (We are in a long distant relationship).

It's probably nothing but hey, I thought I wanted to share this with you guys and hear your opinion.
For me it's important to be in the game even when you're in a relationship.

Thanks in advance, and goodluck gaming!
I gotta say, sometimes I read the way people communicate in relationships and it's so passive aggressive and unhealthy.... This does not sound like a conversation after sending her a funny picture. If I had sent my gf a funny pic and she said you dont know me at all, my response would be what the hell are you talking about?! And if she says I only see the bad things in her?!? Sorry, but something is weird here...sounds like you criticize the girl alot, or she's just lying. Either way it's just messed up and weird

Author:  Pajo [ Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Probably nothing

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
It's probably a frame control thing

Women always try to take back the "control"
of the relationship...and they do it by
doing little shit test..like what you
just mentioned...hold your ground

text her later with something playful
like

"So why haven't you checked in today"
Yea I guess, she's still acting kind of weird.
Responding really slowely, sometimes it takes like a day.
Now I do just the same, respond once a day since she's doing the same. But the funny thing is that she's the first one who starts a conversation.
If you're going to play games you'll have to play harder. Don't play her game.. Thats how you lose. You can't win the game of someone else creation. You train her by taking things a step further if you have no other solution. She takes 24 hours to text you, you don't text her back at all. She'll text you back within a shorter time.

You're losing her because you're driving up behind her on a one way street trying to get ahead. Pick your own road. Try not responding at all and you'll see an instant shift in behavior.

That or just get out of it.
Yea you're right, thanks for the post bro.

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