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Author:  lonely_z1 [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:14 am ]
Post subject:  What do you -as PUA's- understand from these texts?
Just a little background of the story, I'm new to PUA stuff but I'm working pretty hard and trying to eliminate approaching anxiety. This girl approached me a month ago and we've been together since then. I treat her like a 4 (she's a solid 7.5 and I see most guys hitting on her but I don't seem to give a shit) when I'm with her and I barely text/call her. She's the first one to do that stuff and I show very less interest in this relationship (Yes, I know what you're thinking; "It's your fault" bla bla) but I've been thinking of dumping her, but again as most PUAs would say EXPERIENCE! which is exactly one thing that's stopping me. So here's what she texted me today;

HER: Are we both good enough for each other? :/
ME: What do you mean?
HER: No.. nothing.
ME: Tell me.
HER: I feel like you don't wanna be with me.
ME: Why wouldn't I? I'm fine with you as long as you're fine.
HER: Okay :/
ME: You don't wanna be with me?
HER: I'm fine with you <3
ME: Cool.
HER: Okay :/
ME: Why would you say that, any reasons?
HER: Idk, I just felt like that.

So, I've tried asking her for reasons a couple of times but she wouldn't tell me and I'm not serious with her at all and I have NO feelings. I take it as experience. Now, some of you might hate me for being such a person but isn't that what players do? Any suggestions/comments would be appreciated. Thanks <3 Love you guys.
Author:  younglady [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What do you -as PUA's- understand from these texts?
I see nobody's replied yet.

Well your girlfriend sounds quite intriguing, but I'm guessing you don't need any advice seeing as you're a genius, and you pride yourself on being a manipulator! I hope you know what you're doing, though.

This girl displays two types of behaviors that do not usually go together. On the one hand she shows a level of boldness which even I don't possess. She approaches you first and initiates conversations. And yet, on the other hand, she shows a huge level of vulnerability by acting insecure/afraid ("I feel like you don't wanna be with meee :cry: :cry: ")

It would be interesting if you posted some more details about you and your girlfriend, and I'd love to know what you eventually figure out about this mysterious girl's intentions and how she handles you in the end. I just have this feeling she'll handle you, and not the other way around.
Author:  lonely_z1 [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:57 pm ]
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I see nobody's replied yet.

Well your girlfriend sounds quite intriguing, but I'm guessing you don't need any advice seeing as you're a genius, and you pride yourself on being a manipulator! I hope you know what you're doing, though.

This girl displays two types of behaviors that do not usually go together. On the one hand she shows a level of boldness which even I don't possess. She approaches you first and initiates conversations. And yet, on the other hand, she shows a huge level of vulnerability by acting insecure/afraid ("I feel like you don't wanna be with meee :cry: :cry: ")

It would be interesting if you posted some more details about you and your girlfriend, and I'd love to know what you eventually figure out about this mysterious girl's intentions and how she handles you in the end. I just have this feeling she'll handle you, and not the other way around.
Thanks a lot for your reply :) and yes, I'd love to give out more details. Well, first of all - she's the one who actually approached me and talked to me, and asked me out although I didn't seem to give my attention to her before but she noticed me. I've actually seen quite few girls giving me the look/signal but I wasn't really able to approach them since I started reading all the stuff on these forums. She tries to make me jealous by talking about other guys with me but I don't seem to care which doesn't make her feel good and I'm planning to make her jealous now. Also, I've tried few other things discussed on these forums, such as; just manning up and telling her to stop talking about boring stuff, I usually go like "so boring" and she stops talking. Basically, I just tell her to entertain me and I've seen her try her best to do so. I'm not really sure how to handle her, but I'm trying. Also, she wants to get sexual soon - she's been giving me signals lately and I should probably go for it. Once again, thanks for showing interest. <3
Author:  n2thevoid [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What do you -as PUA's- understand from these texts?
She feels insecure she's looking for some validation.
Author:  n2thevoid [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What do you -as PUA's- understand from these texts?
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I see nobody's replied yet.

Well your girlfriend sounds quite intriguing, but I'm guessing you don't need any advice seeing as you're a genius, and you pride yourself on being a manipulator! I hope you know what you're doing, though.

This girl displays two types of behaviors that do not usually go together. On the one hand she shows a level of boldness which even I don't possess. She approaches you first and initiates conversations. And yet, on the other hand, she shows a huge level of vulnerability by acting insecure/afraid ("I feel like you don't wanna be with meee :cry: :cry: ")

It would be interesting if you posted some more details about you and your girlfriend, and I'd love to know what you eventually figure out about this mysterious girl's intentions and how she handles you in the end. I just have this feeling she'll handle you, and not the other way around.
The behaviors aren't contradictory or 'rare' by any stretch of the imagination. A lot of anxious attachment type people act this way. They can put up a bold front when the attachment is nil or weak, but once the hooks are in they become fearful of losing the person and will react through a very insecure lens, often times pushing their partner away. Not saying definitively that this girl is insecurely attached, but the behaviors are very common.
Author:  younglady [ Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:28 pm ]
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I see nobody's replied yet.

Well your girlfriend sounds quite intriguing, but I'm guessing you don't need any advice seeing as you're a genius, and you pride yourself on being a manipulator! I hope you know what you're doing, though.

This girl displays two types of behaviors that do not usually go together. On the one hand she shows a level of boldness which even I don't possess. She approaches you first and initiates conversations. And yet, on the other hand, she shows a huge level of vulnerability by acting insecure/afraid ("I feel like you don't wanna be with meee :cry: :cry: ")

It would be interesting if you posted some more details about you and your girlfriend, and I'd love to know what you eventually figure out about this mysterious girl's intentions and how she handles you in the end. I just have this feeling she'll handle you, and not the other way around.
Thanks a lot for your reply :) and yes, I'd love to give out more details. Well, first of all - she's the one who actually approached me and talked to me, and asked me out although I didn't seem to give my attention to her before but she noticed me. I've actually seen quite few girls giving me the look/signal but I wasn't really able to approach them since I started reading all the stuff on these forums. She tries to make me jealous by talking about other guys with me but I don't seem to care which doesn't make her feel good and I'm planning to make her jealous now. Also, I've tried few other things discussed on these forums, such as; just manning up and telling her to stop talking about boring stuff, I usually go like "so boring" and she stops talking. Basically, I just tell her to entertain me and I've seen her try her best to do so. I'm not really sure how to handle her, but I'm trying. Also, she wants to get sexual soon - she's been giving me signals lately and I should probably go for it. Once again, thanks for showing interest. <3
Well, this is supposed to be a serious relationship, but both of you are playing games. I really don't know what to say when I see high school pettiness in adult couples. Good luck with that, but I'm sure you know how it's going to end.
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The behaviors aren't contradictory or 'rare' by any stretch of the imagination. A lot of anxious attachment type people act this way. They can put up a bold front when the attachment is nil or weak, but once the hooks are in they become fearful of losing the person and will react through a very insecure lens, often times pushing their partner away. Not saying definitively that this girl is insecurely attached, but the behaviors are very common.
You would be right if this girl were actually insecure. Look at it carefully, she knows how attractive she is, that is why she behaves in certain ways. To put myself in her shoes, I would have OP as just one of several projects. Just as I approached the OP, I would also approach a couple other guys because I'm hot and it's easy to get them. Each guy has a different personality and will entertain me differently. So while with the OP, I act dumb and babyish because it's what he likes, and I am very patient because it's just a role I'm playing. Then when I'm with the other guys, I alter my persona accordingly. You can disagree with my opinion, but not every girl who appears to be dumb and insecure actually is...
Author:  n2thevoid [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:59 am ]
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I see nobody's replied yet.

Well your girlfriend sounds quite intriguing, but I'm guessing you don't need any advice seeing as you're a genius, and you pride yourself on being a manipulator! I hope you know what you're doing, though.

This girl displays two types of behaviors that do not usually go together. On the one hand she shows a level of boldness which even I don't possess. She approaches you first and initiates conversations. And yet, on the other hand, she shows a huge level of vulnerability by acting insecure/afraid ("I feel like you don't wanna be with meee :cry: :cry: ")

It would be interesting if you posted some more details about you and your girlfriend, and I'd love to know what you eventually figure out about this mysterious girl's intentions and how she handles you in the end. I just have this feeling she'll handle you, and not the other way around.
Thanks a lot for your reply :) and yes, I'd love to give out more details. Well, first of all - she's the one who actually approached me and talked to me, and asked me out although I didn't seem to give my attention to her before but she noticed me. I've actually seen quite few girls giving me the look/signal but I wasn't really able to approach them since I started reading all the stuff on these forums. She tries to make me jealous by talking about other guys with me but I don't seem to care which doesn't make her feel good and I'm planning to make her jealous now. Also, I've tried few other things discussed on these forums, such as; just manning up and telling her to stop talking about boring stuff, I usually go like "so boring" and she stops talking. Basically, I just tell her to entertain me and I've seen her try her best to do so. I'm not really sure how to handle her, but I'm trying. Also, she wants to get sexual soon - she's been giving me signals lately and I should probably go for it. Once again, thanks for showing interest. <3
Well, this is supposed to be a serious relationship, but both of you are playing games. I really don't know what to say when I see high school pettiness in adult couples. Good luck with that, but I'm sure you know how it's going to end.
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The behaviors aren't contradictory or 'rare' by any stretch of the imagination. A lot of anxious attachment type people act this way. They can put up a bold front when the attachment is nil or weak, but once the hooks are in they become fearful of losing the person and will react through a very insecure lens, often times pushing their partner away. Not saying definitively that this girl is insecurely attached, but the behaviors are very common.
You would be right if this girl were actually insecure. Look at it carefully, she knows how attractive she is, that is why she behaves in certain ways. To put myself in her shoes, I would have OP as just one of several projects. Just as I approached the OP, I would also approach a couple other guys because I'm hot and it's easy to get them. Each guy has a different personality and will entertain me differently. So while with the OP, I act dumb and babyish because it's what he likes, and I am very patient because it's just a role I'm playing. Then when I'm with the other guys, I alter my persona accordingly. You can disagree with my opinion, but not every girl who appears to be dumb and insecure actually is...
You're certainly reading a lot into this, particularly when there isn't even any evidence of this girl being particularly attractive given the op's score of 7.5.
Author:  neo87 [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What do you -as PUA's- understand from these texts?
This is the definition of a silly post Op. So you treat her like a 4,you show little interest in her and you are confused on why she thinks you don't like her... You don't like her and u treat her like u don't like her. Obvious.
Also, what experience are you gaining here? How to have a relationship with a girl you don't like? You aren't gaining anything here just wasting both of yours time. When you meet a girl u do like you won't know how to have a normal relationship if your experience comes from this one. Stop playing with the girl and wasting your own time.
Author:  lonely_z1 [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:47 am ]
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This is the definition of a silly post Op. So you treat her like a 4,you show little interest in her and you are confused on why she thinks you don't like her... You don't like her and u treat her like u don't like her. Obvious.
Also, what experience are you gaining here? How to have a relationship with a girl you don't like? You aren't gaining anything here just wasting both of yours time. When you meet a girl u do like you won't know how to have a normal relationship if your experience comes from this one. Stop playing with the girl and wasting your own time.
It's not silly, all I'm trying to figure out here is what made her think that I don't want to be with her? I'm trying to figure out most of the possible reasons from this experience so I can work on them and improve myself.
Author:  neo87 [ Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:54 am ]
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I treat her like a 4 (she's a solid 7.5 and I see most guys hitting on her but I don't seem to give a shit) when I'm with her and I barely text/call her.

She's the first one to do that stuff and I show very less interest in this relationship
There's your answer. It's like someone saying, hey I come into work late, barely do my work and act like I don't give a fuck when I'm there. Why do people think I don't care or like my job?
Author:  maria_ [ Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What do you -as PUA's- understand from these texts?
I agree with everything neo87 says.
@OP
PUA supposed to help you improve your life and increase the amount of success you have with the opposite sex. You have taken it completely out of context.
If you want to improve your pulling techniques you should go out on the field and start flirting.
At the moment you are causing anxiety to a girl that might have been someone else's perfect woman and you are creating her baggage.
The right thing to do is to break up, get better at your game and when you are ready to settle down with someone to do it and behave in a mature way.
You don't need experience to be in a relationship with a person that is your match. That's the whole point of being with someone that is compatible with you: to be your self around this person and feel comfortable.
A relationship that is ruled by mind games is not a good relationship.

To answer your question about what her messages say: She is trying to find out where she stands with you because you are sending mixed signals.
If she is a good girl she will stay until someone talks to her and explains her your game. Then she will be gone.
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