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You're not being sexual with your texts. You sound like you're texting a mate... "Hey how are you? How's your kid?" that's the kind of shit her work colleagues and old friends will ask her.

You add no value to her, so she ignores you. You sound boring. Be sexual, speak to her emotions withour being needy and stop being boring. Chit chat will get you nowhere. Remember how you got the f close in the first place. What was the build up like? Repeat what you did to get her in bed the first time. Relax and stop being awkward.

How did you leave things with her after the f close? Did she imply or say "Call me?"

There's nothing creepy about being sexual, in fact it's more creepy to fuck a girl and then make boring chit chat with her. The problem here is you're not being congruent. She was excited and aroused enough by you to have sex with you that night, then you follow it up with "So, uh... how are the kids?" And you wonder why her vag is dry and she doesn't text you back?

Don't be embarrassed about what turns you on. In fact, I'm often very open about my crazy fantasies right off the bat. Always reinforce the link between sex and you. The more sexual ideas you put in her head involving you, the more she will think about you every time she's horny.

Grow some balls and she will lick them. If not, move on and learn from your mistakes. Learn to be fully comfortable with your sexuality. I've trained my comfort level up to a point now where I'm ok with having a visible bulge in my pants on the dancefloor with a chick grinding up against me. Every man gets erections. Its normal. What makes it creepy is being embarrassed and unsure about your horniness, this is what repulses women : apprehension, hesitation, insecurity etc. Being sexual and comfortable with it will get you laid consistently.

the difference between now and then is before she was the one who was texting you first. she was interested in you and texted you first.
may be she lost interest in you.

she didn’t followed up on that. on the other thought, why didn’t you make a time to meet when you were texting? not sure if that would improve anything but at least you knew when to expect to meet.

may be that is the way it works in america to text a lot before making time to meet. but really unefficient. the point of a phone is to arrange time to meet. if you have that then you can chit chat.

Why do you keep explaining all your actions to her. For example, when you smelled her flake and you wanted to turn it, just say "hey,something came up, tonight is a no go. Another time." Then shut the fuck up. You have the right idea then can't shut your mouth. It's blunt, but true.

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i did it out of politeness. mainly because her kid was meant to be part of the plan, and i didnt want to keep him hanging too. i know i shouldn't be too formal with this, but shes flaked a million times on me, even after that, i still f closed her when i met her in town.

is this one of those town things, where you text to shag

or am i under some false assumption trying to relationship this girl?

Author:	trex1024 [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:46 am ]
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hey guys. this ones been bugging me for a bit now, met a milf..easy HB9-10. so many occasions we'll plan a meetup and the convo dries up and we'll stop texting. and then bump into each other again, and the cycle continues few months ago. ive finally gathered the balls to add her on FB. got her number, metup in town and sealed the deal. she had just come out of a relationship. i dunno wtf she gets upto quick stat, shes 19, im 29 i have a kid also. i bumped into her after the f close, but she was with a group of mates and we both waved and went our different directions. did an afc txt to ask her to come meet me. no reply so after 2 months of silence after the F close i decided to hit her up. Me: Monkey! haven't heard fro u in aegis. how u been? her: hey u! im good. same old same ol how are u? whats new? ME: oh not much, cured aids last week, ate cereal all day and now reading the dictionary backwards. U? no reply Me: My son just hung up on me sayin "cant talk now. im going mate:. Mate? the hell?! her: hahaahhaha! thats so funny. the thngs they come up with ae me: hard! hows your little munchkin? keepin mummy on her toes i bet? her: oh yes very much. im babysitting two other munchkins tonight too hahah me: good girl. prouda u we need to catchup soon. her: haha. yes we need to! me: allright girl. ill sort summin out left it there few days later.. me: *****! have u survived sat?! no reply. the fucks goin on here?! she messing with me or should i hang up here and move on? people have advised me to just keep this to a town thing and ping her to see if shes out. hard to read her, because being an HB9 she probably has guys chasing her mad, and i dont wanna be a despo. i wanted to keep this a 1-1 text, but she seems to respond to the right things, when i say it. tomorrow. ill be doing daygame for the first time in my life. this girl is someone i want to make things work with. but kinda hard when we barely speak or see each other. any suggestions to my next move?

Author:	Hunter_Foxe [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:19 am ]
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You're not being sexual with your texts. You sound like you're texting a mate... "Hey how are you? How's your kid?" that's the kind of shit her work colleagues and old friends will ask her. You add no value to her, so she ignores you. You sound boring. Be sexual, speak to her emotions withour being needy and stop being boring. Chit chat will get you nowhere. Remember how you got the f close in the first place. What was the build up like? Repeat what you did to get her in bed the first time. Relax and stop being awkward.

Author:	trex1024 [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:31 am ]
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Quote: You're not being sexual with your texts. You sound like you're texting a mate... "Hey how are you? How's your kid?" that's the kind of shit her work colleagues and old friends will ask her. You add no value to her, so she ignores you. You sound boring. Be sexual, speak to her emotions withour being needy and stop being boring. Chit chat will get you nowhere. Remember how you got the f close in the first place. What was the build up like? Repeat what you did to get her in bed the first time. Relax and stop being awkward. hey dude, cheers for the reply. How do you suppose i go for her emotions in this situation? my text game as you've seen is weak at best. and i feel, by sending her sexy shit, i'd come across despo and creepy. i could easily text her now and ask if shes gonna be out in town. but this would be stupid without i having any sexual undertones, but where do i start? what is a good text to send in these situations? this was the buildup that landed me an F close. feel free to have a read and see if im remotely touchng base here. Her: Hey how are you? me: Very fkn Hungover. Thats how. N U? Her: hahaha how your supposed to be on a sunday. im good long time no talk. me: I kno Ryt? went 2 a houswarming. cannot describe how loose, shit got there. whats new down ure end? u behavin? Her: Hahah oh dear...umm not much really ..never! na work, my son, the usual. me. meeen. hows the little munchkin? then it carried n to kids talk.... number closed through facebook texted this: Me: ** - My Monkey! its . keep this number safe and hidden. its gunna come handy soon no doubt HER: hahah . Hey yeah im sure it will fast forward to my b-day Her: Happy B-Day ! hope you have had an awesome day so far. X me : Thanx my munchkin! hope ur merry about now. town shud be good i f/closed someone else that night so didnt bother too much with her. fast forward to the next weeknd. me: Monkey!!!! Town this weeknd? her: Monkey2! Y yes sat night i'l be out me : hey hey, lets not get this twisted! you're my sidekick. ther's an unspoken spot open dependin on how well ur gunna behave her : ahahah ohh is that right is it? Bad! im always bad lol but in the best kinda way. long story short, met up with her in town, completely burnt an HB8 that i k/closed at a party that i was at prior to meetup with the HB9. then k/closed HB9 in town, bounced to mine and F/closed.

Author:	Hunter_Foxe [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:13 pm ]
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How did you leave things with her after the f close? Did she imply or say "Call me?" There's nothing creepy about being sexual, in fact it's more creepy to fuck a girl and then make boring chit chat with her. The problem here is you're not being congruent. She was excited and aroused enough by you to have sex with you that night, then you follow it up with "So, uh... how are the kids?" And you wonder why her vag is dry and she doesn't text you back? Don't be embarrassed about what turns you on. In fact, I'm often very open about my crazy fantasies right off the bat. Always reinforce the link between sex and you. The more sexual ideas you put in her head involving you, the more she will think about you every time she's horny. Grow some balls and she will lick them. If not, move on and learn from your mistakes. Learn to be fully comfortable with your sexuality. I've trained my comfort level up to a point now where I'm ok with having a visible bulge in my pants on the dancefloor with a chick grinding up against me. Every man gets erections. Its normal. What makes it creepy is being embarrassed and unsure about your horniness, this is what repulses women : apprehension, hesitation, insecurity etc. Being sexual and comfortable with it will get you laid consistently.

Author:	trex1024 [ Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:44 pm ]
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Quote: How did you leave things with her after the f close? Did she imply or say "Call me?" There's nothing creepy about being sexual, in fact it's more creepy to fuck a girl and then make boring chit chat with her. The problem here is you're not being congruent. She was excited and aroused enough by you to have sex with you that night, then you follow it up with "So, uh... how are the kids?" And you wonder why her vag is dry and she doesn't text you back? Don't be embarrassed about what turns you on. In fact, I'm often very open about my crazy fantasies right off the bat. Always reinforce the link between sex and you. The more sexual ideas you put in her head involving you, the more she will think about you every time she's horny. Grow some balls and she will lick them. If not, move on and learn from your mistakes. Learn to be fully comfortable with your sexuality. I've trained my comfort level up to a point now where I'm ok with having a visible bulge in my pants on the dancefloor with a chick grinding up against me. Every man gets erections. Its normal. What makes it creepy is being embarrassed and unsure about your horniness, this is what repulses women : apprehension, hesitation, insecurity etc. Being sexual and comfortable with it will get you laid consistently. well, after the f close, im sure ive said some needy shit. but as you outlined, the texting dried up. ive texted her some lame as shit like: just went to the supermarket and seen a banana. fully got reminded of you. how goes it monkey 2? i know...really AFC. it stopped there. i did bump into her once but i couldnt get to her. neither did i want to, as thats despo. we just waved and went out own ways. i texted her saying : hey! where you run off to? come grab a drink with me. no reply. she didnt mention anything about moving forward after the F close, apart from the fact that she is not ready for a relationship, as she just came out of one. there werent any texting between us for two months until this last escapade im just really stuck where to take this. sure i can be sexual but what exactly Constitutes to a good text to get her sexully charged?

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Author:	Semimembranosus [ Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:45 am ]
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the difference between now and then is before she was the one who was texting you first. she was interested in you and texted you first. may be she lost interest in you.

Author:	trex1024 [ Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:50 am ]
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Quote: the difference between now and then is before she was the one who was texting you first. she was interested in you and texted you first. may be she lost interest in you. this may be true. but.... why would she agree to meeting up? me: good girl. prouda u we need to catchup soon. her: haha. yes we need to!

Author:	Semimembranosus [ Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:12 pm ]
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she didn’t followed up on that. on the other thought, why didn’t you make a time to meet when you were texting? not sure if that would improve anything but at least you knew when to expect to meet. may be that is the way it works in america to text a lot before making time to meet. but really unefficient. the point of a phone is to arrange time to meet. if you have that then you can chit chat.

Author:	trex1024 [ Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:50 am ]
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Quote: she didn’t followed up on that. on the other thought, why didn’t you make a time to meet when you were texting? not sure if that would improve anything but at least you knew when to expect to meet. may be that is the way it works in america to text a lot before making time to meet. but really unefficient. the point of a phone is to arrange time to meet. if you have that then you can chit chat. yeah man, massive tactical error on my part. i should have at least asked when she was gunna be out next and hen leave it, then ping her when its time. that's whats worked for me with her in the past. yesterday she sent a facebook invite to a page she created. this page is old. so i have no idea why im getting it at 9 a.m at night. maybe her way of pinging me back? i forgot to mention, about three weeks ago, i bumped into her friend, had a yarn about her. she said, shes gonna put a good word in for me. would it be a bad idea to call her, build some comfort, then organize a time or ask when shes free?

Author:	trex1024 [ Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:07 am ]
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so i decided to text her this week and see if shes actually keen to meet up: Me: ****! tried to call u just b4 monkey! her: hey just got home fro wrk so put my phone away haha how r u? me: mm good just cookn a feed afta gym. im wrekkd was gunna ask, *** is on , u shud def tag with me this weekend or the next her: soooo am i lol and im still working now . i was gng to enter but not sure if i will now me:oh hwcome? u def got the butt fo it her: hahaha. uhm just didnt hav enough time 2 get everything together plus im saving to go away so didnt want to spend any more money than i need to me: i see. im detoxn ths month so wont be drnkn at all. wea u headed her: aw yeah been having too much? haha. brisbane me: yep. since i got back fro melbourne in feb. this shit aint healthy with summer coming up, and i need to save too.will u do me a massive fava? her: fair enough yeah i know what u mean i sort of feel like i need a detox too. yeah sure me: im thnkn of headn for a shop for * this weekend. nothn too flash i havent seen him in 3 weeks. come help me choose somethn for the lil brat im thnkn of gettn him some clothes her: yeah sure me: ill come pik ya up. bring ya lil too if hes awake/seem like hes in for it will be our lil date her: sounds good me: great.how sat sound for ya? her: i wrk til 2.30 but i think im free after that me: sa'll good. ill be in touch. wotcha cookn her: cool. im not cooking im working on paper work for the salon and sorting through emails me: sweet. im gunna munch up. talk soon chic her: ok sweet i got a strong vibe of this being a flake, so i decided to bail on her first. sent a message like this before the meetup: me : Hey ****, Apologies, but I can't make it today. smthing has come up and I've got to take care of it. I was looking forward to catching up, and was wondering if you were free tonight instead, for a drink or dins. Once again, sorry. but this is something I really need to take care of. No reply. low key this is annoying me. i had a great shot and it seems that i kill it because i seem to get excited before anythings even happened and during just plain conversatio. i know it's easy to point at this being a oneitis issue, but i managed to pull the same night of the date and f close another bird and have solidly done so since me and her last F closed. so im not too sure if sleeping with other girls going to take the thought away for a bit. any suggestions? is this now a writeoff?

Author:	Playboi_ [ Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:21 am ]
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Why do you keep explaining all your actions to her. For example, when you smelled her flake and you wanted to turn it, just say "hey,something came up, tonight is a no go. Another time." Then shut the fuck up. You have the right idea then can't shut your mouth. It's blunt, but true.

Author:	trex1024 [ Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:01 am ]
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Quote: Why do you keep explaining all your actions to her. For example, when you smelled her flake and you wanted to turn it, just say "hey,something came up, tonight is a no go. Another time." Then shut the fuck up. You have the right idea then can't shut your mouth. It's blunt, but true. i did it out of politeness. mainly because her kid was meant to be part of the plan, and i didnt want to keep him hanging too. i know i shouldn't be too formal with this, but shes flaked a million times on me, even after that, i still f closed her when i met her in town. is this one of those town things, where you text to shag or am i under some false assumption trying to relationship this girl?

Author:	Playboi_ [ Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:10 am ]
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Quote: Quote: Why do you keep explaining all your actions to her. For example, when you smelled her flake and you wanted to turn it, just say "hey,something came up, tonight is a no go. Another time." Then shut the fuck up. You have the right idea then can't shut your mouth. It's blunt, but true. i did it out of politeness. mainly because her kid was meant to be part of the plan, and i didnt want to keep him hanging too. i know i shouldn't be too formal with this, but shes flaked a million times on me, even after that, i still f closed her when i met her in town. is this one of those town things, where you text to shag or am i under some false assumption trying to relationship this girl? I always think men have the wrong idea when they want to 'relationship' a girl. I believe the connection and actions that follow are something you can control. Sometimes a relationship falls into place if it is something you are not opposed to, sometimes it does not. I believe you should flirt, seduce, have a good time and such and if a long term deal comes out of it, then so be it. If your mission is to strictly make it a relationship in the long run as hard as you try, your approach will differ. Normally, this does not work out well. Build the attraction in her. Make her miss you and make yourself the prize. If a relationship does develop, you still need that mindset.

Author:	trex1024 [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:52 am ]
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[/quote] I always think men have the wrong idea when they want to 'relationship' a girl. I believe the connection and actions that follow are something you can control. Sometimes a relationship falls into place if it is something you are not opposed to, sometimes it does not. I believe you should flirt, seduce, have a good time and such and if a long term deal comes out of it, then so be it. If your mission is to strictly make it a relationship in the long run as hard as you try, your approach will differ. Normally, this does not work out well. Build the attraction in her. Make her miss you and make yourself the prize. If a relationship does develop, you still need that mindset.[/quote] ok, so i get that point in not going on the relationship path too early. this girls an HB10 at best. so, not short of options. as others have mentioned, i havent built enough attraction through texts. this is ina way counterproductive i think, because sometimes i chat to her in facebook or through texts, so its hard to DHV or build attraction through these mediums. she will be going out to town soon and ill be out and about doing my thing. i wouldnt mind meeting up with her, but id much rather do my thing when im in person rather than message her wanting to meetup. that's gonna come even more AFC than it did before. whats the best way to rope this girl into a meetup from now on?

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Author:	Playboi_ [ Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:59 am ]
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Quote: I always think men have the wrong idea when they want to 'relationship' a girl. I believe the connection and actions that follow are something you can control. Sometimes a relationship falls into place if it is something you are not opposed to, sometimes it does not. I believe you should flirt, seduce, have a good time and such and if a long term deal comes out of it, then so be it. If your mission is to strictly make it a relationship in the long run as hard as you try, your approach will differ. Normally, this does not work out well. Build the attraction in her. Make her miss you and make yourself the prize. If a relationship does develop, you still need that mindset.[/quote] ok, so i get that point in not going on the relationship path too early. this girls an HB10 at best. so, not short of options. as others have mentioned, i havent built enough attraction through texts. this is ina way counterproductive i think, because sometimes i chat to her in facebook or through texts, so its hard to DHV or build attraction through these mediums. she will be going out to town soon and ill be out and about doing my thing. i wouldnt mind meeting up with her, but id much rather do my thing when im in person rather than message her wanting to meetup. that's gonna come even more AFC than it did before. whats the best way to rope this girl into a meetup from now on?[/quote] Very easy to DHV. Keep away from constant messaging online/texts and she will see that you have a lot going on in your life. Instead of messaging her on fb, make all that statuses you post only when you are going to do something cool or meeting up with a lot of people. I am not one for the whole tagging and checking in but if she sees a large crowd you are with, it is only a plus. I am sure you could expect a little, "hey, what are you up to" text after some of these.