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Author:  MNF [ Fri May 17, 2013 4:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Ending a 15 month relationship.

Hi guys, hope you are all well.

Having been with my girlfriend for around 15 months now, I have reached a stage where I feel as though I no longer want to be with her. I find myself bored in the time we spend together and do not miss her in our time apart. I am 99% sure that it is time for us to part ways, and so I know I must break up with her.

Unfortunately, I can say with absolute certainty that she does not feel the same. She is crazy about me, misses me constantly and finds little enjoyment in the rest of her life (she complains constantly about her University course, friends and family and has no real hobbies/things to lose herself in). As a result, I know that I am not set up for an easy, clean break up. Whilst academically intelligent, she is emotionally immature, needy and insecure (she's 18 and I'm 21, for what it's worth).

How the hell do I go about this, guys? I do care about her a lot and want to cause her as little pain as possible, but also want things to end as smoothly as possible for my own reasons - I don't want this to hang around for some time after we split up. I've never broken up with a girl before and have no idea what to expect.

Please help! Thanks.

Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Fri May 17, 2013 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ending a 15 month relationship.

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Hi guys, hope you are all well.

Having been with my girlfriend for around 15 months now, I have reached a stage where I feel as though I no longer want to be with her. I find myself bored in the time we spend together and do not miss her in our time apart. I am 99% sure that it is time for us to part ways, and so I know I must break up with her.

Unfortunately, I can say with absolute certainty that she does not feel the same. She is crazy about me, misses me constantly and finds little enjoyment in the rest of her life (she complains constantly about her University course, friends and family and has no real hobbies/things to lose herself in). As a result, I know that I am not set up for an easy, clean break up. Whilst academically intelligent, she is emotionally immature, needy and insecure (she's 18 and I'm 21, for what it's worth).

How the hell do I go about this, guys? I do care about her a lot and want to cause her as little pain as possible, but also want things to end as smoothly as possible for my own reasons - I don't want this to hang around for some time after we split up. I've never broken up with a girl before and have no idea what to expect.

Please help! Thanks.
I'd say go AFC on her. Force yourself to seem real needy and clingy and let her break it off. Basically... Make the relationship miserable for her on purpose. The cool thing about being the alpha male... is you know how to act beta too lol

Author:  vhou812 [ Fri May 17, 2013 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ending a 15 month relationship.

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Hi guys, hope you are all well.

Having been with my girlfriend for around 15 months now, I have reached a stage where I feel as though I no longer want to be with her. I find myself bored in the time we spend together and do not miss her in our time apart. I am 99% sure that it is time for us to part ways, and so I know I must break up with her.

Unfortunately, I can say with absolute certainty that she does not feel the same. She is crazy about me, misses me constantly and finds little enjoyment in the rest of her life (she complains constantly about her University course, friends and family and has no real hobbies/things to lose herself in). As a result, I know that I am not set up for an easy, clean break up. Whilst academically intelligent, she is emotionally immature, needy and insecure (she's 18 and I'm 21, for what it's worth).

How the hell do I go about this, guys? I do care about her a lot and want to cause her as little pain as possible, but also want things to end as smoothly as possible for my own reasons - I don't want this to hang around for some time after we split up. I've never broken up with a girl before and have no idea what to expect.

Please help! Thanks.
I'd say go AFC on her. Force yourself to seem real needy and clingy and let her break it off. Basically... Make the relationship miserable for her on purpose. The cool thing about being the alpha male... is you know how to act beta too lol
This is NOT how I end a 15 month relationship. It's a backdoor, beta course of action. ACTING beta is BEING beta.

Be a man, make your decision for the right reasons, explain that to her, and cut the cord. How would you want a woman to dump you, by playing a bunch of immature games, or telling to you straight so you can evaluate whether you want to change what she couldn't deal with, or whether you like yourself enough as is. The latter usually makes it MUCH easier to accept a relationship ending, because when you get all emotional you just remember that things she didn't like about you, you do like about you, therefore, you were not a good match.

All that being said, it sounds to me like your disinterest in her is because of all of the things she's doing wrong. It's not attractive to complain all the time, and have no friends and hobbies. This is likely why you aren't feeling it with her anymore, and she deserves to know. These are GOOD reasons to break up with someone. It is up to her to decide then if she wants to complain for the rest of her life, or if she wants to have few friends and no hobbies. It's highly likely that if she stops complaining, and has a few hobbies, you'll find her more attractive again, regardless of if you're dating her or not.

Trust me on this, it's not that hard to be honest with someone. If they can't handle the honesty, then they aren't a good person to be with, and everyone needs to learn that at some point.

Author:  zmbcm1 [ Fri May 17, 2013 5:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ending a 15 month relationship.

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Hi guys, hope you are all well.

Having been with my girlfriend for around 15 months now, I have reached a stage where I feel as though I no longer want to be with her. I find myself bored in the time we spend together and do not miss her in our time apart. I am 99% sure that it is time for us to part ways, and so I know I must break up with her.

Unfortunately, I can say with absolute certainty that she does not feel the same. She is crazy about me, misses me constantly and finds little enjoyment in the rest of her life (she complains constantly about her University course, friends and family and has no real hobbies/things to lose herself in). As a result, I know that I am not set up for an easy, clean break up. Whilst academically intelligent, she is emotionally immature, needy and insecure (she's 18 and I'm 21, for what it's worth).

How the hell do I go about this, guys? I do care about her a lot and want to cause her as little pain as possible, but also want things to end as smoothly as possible for my own reasons - I don't want this to hang around for some time after we split up. I've never broken up with a girl before and have no idea what to expect.

Please help! Thanks.
I'd say go AFC on her. Force yourself to seem real needy and clingy and let her break it off. Basically... Make the relationship miserable for her on purpose. The cool thing about being the alpha male... is you know how to act beta too lol
This is excellent advice in principle... But very hard to implement for most. The danger is you're going to "go native" with your new AFC role, and when she leaves you, its going to sting bad and you won't want to let go. You have to have tremendous inner game/security to be able to do something like this and not end up having it backfire/hurt you.

Author:  zmbcm1 [ Fri May 17, 2013 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ending a 15 month relationship.

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Hi guys, hope you are all well.

Having been with my girlfriend for around 15 months now, I have reached a stage where I feel as though I no longer want to be with her. I find myself bored in the time we spend together and do not miss her in our time apart. I am 99% sure that it is time for us to part ways, and so I know I must break up with her.

Unfortunately, I can say with absolute certainty that she does not feel the same. She is crazy about me, misses me constantly and finds little enjoyment in the rest of her life (she complains constantly about her University course, friends and family and has no real hobbies/things to lose herself in). As a result, I know that I am not set up for an easy, clean break up. Whilst academically intelligent, she is emotionally immature, needy and insecure (she's 18 and I'm 21, for what it's worth).

How the hell do I go about this, guys? I do care about her a lot and want to cause her as little pain as possible, but also want things to end as smoothly as possible for my own reasons - I don't want this to hang around for some time after we split up. I've never broken up with a girl before and have no idea what to expect.

Please help! Thanks.
I'd say go AFC on her. Force yourself to seem real needy and clingy and let her break it off. Basically... Make the relationship miserable for her on purpose. The cool thing about being the alpha male... is you know how to act beta too lol
This is NOT how I end a 15 month relationship. It's a backdoor, beta course of action. ACTING beta is BEING beta.

Be a man, make your decision for the right reasons, explain that to her, and cut the cord. How would you want a woman to dump you, by playing a bunch of immature games, or telling to you straight so you can evaluate whether you want to change what she couldn't deal with, or whether you like yourself enough as is. The latter usually makes it MUCH easier to accept a relationship ending, because when you get all emotional you just remember that things she didn't like about you, you do like about you, therefore, you were not a good match.

All that being said, it sounds to me like your disinterest in her is because of all of the things she's doing wrong. It's not attractive to complain all the time, and have no friends and hobbies. This is likely why you aren't feeling it with her anymore, and she deserves to know. These are GOOD reasons to break up with someone. It is up to her to decide then if she wants to complain for the rest of her life, or if she wants to have few friends and no hobbies. It's highly likely that if she stops complaining, and has a few hobbies, you'll find her more attractive again, regardless of if you're dating her or not.

Trust me on this, it's not that hard to be honest with someone. If they can't handle the honesty, then they aren't a good person to be with, and everyone needs to learn that at some point.
Sometimes you have to be dishonest to avoid hurting those you care about. That's just how it is. Breaking up like a man and just walking away will wreck this girl and the OP is a good person for not wanting that to happen. The thing is, Magical's method is very difficult to pull off unless you're 100% sure you don't want to be with this girl, and can avoid the feelings coming back once SHE's the one that starts to express disinterest.

Author:  Jay (Majik) [ Fri May 17, 2013 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ending a 15 month relationship.

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Hi guys, hope you are all well.

Having been with my girlfriend for around 15 months now, I have reached a stage where I feel as though I no longer want to be with her. I find myself bored in the time we spend together and do not miss her in our time apart. I am 99% sure that it is time for us to part ways, and so I know I must break up with her.

Unfortunately, I can say with absolute certainty that she does not feel the same. She is crazy about me, misses me constantly and finds little enjoyment in the rest of her life (she complains constantly about her University course, friends and family and has no real hobbies/things to lose herself in). As a result, I know that I am not set up for an easy, clean break up. Whilst academically intelligent, she is emotionally immature, needy and insecure (she's 18 and I'm 21, for what it's worth).

How the hell do I go about this, guys? I do care about her a lot and want to cause her as little pain as possible, but also want things to end as smoothly as possible for my own reasons - I don't want this to hang around for some time after we split up. I've never broken up with a girl before and have no idea what to expect.

Please help! Thanks.
I'd say go AFC on her. Force yourself to seem real needy and clingy and let her break it off. Basically... Make the relationship miserable for her on purpose. The cool thing about being the alpha male... is you know how to act beta too lol
This is excellent advice in principle... But very hard to implement for most. The danger is you're going to "go native" with your new AFC role, and when she leaves you, its going to sting bad and you won't want to let go. You have to have tremendous inner game/security to be able to do something like this and not end up having it backfire/hurt you.
Trust me lol it doesn't take long for her to get sick of it. Imply beta things like calling her all the time, asking what she is doing, where she is at, who she is with, start showing you are upset over the little things that she does... Where are now, you probably aren't doing any of that stuff. Just remember who you are and ACT beta. Don't become beta... Just let her see your weak side more than she sees the strong side is really all it is. Everyone has weaknesses and emotions. It's how you control them and express them that determines your behavior to be alpha vs. beta.

Author:  zmbcm1 [ Fri May 17, 2013 6:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ending a 15 month relationship.

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Trust me lol it doesn't take long for her to get sick of it. Imply beta things like calling her all the time, asking what she is doing, where she is at, who she is with, start showing you are upset over the little things that she does... Where are now, you probably aren't doing any of that stuff. Just remember who you are and ACT beta. Don't become beta... Just let her see your weak side more than she sees the strong side is really all it is. Everyone has weaknesses and emotions. It's how you control them and express them that determines your behavior to be alpha vs. beta.
I know, but what I was saying is that once most people start to see the girl is getting sick of them for being needy, its going to pull numbers on their minds, and then they might actually start becoming genuinely clingy and not wanting to let go. The push pull guys use on girls, works on guys too. For most guys, the natural reaction to a girl becoming distant is to try to get close, and when the girl tries to get close, to get distant. The OP is at the latter swing here. There's no guarantee that once she stops trying to get so close, that he won't start pulling, and if he does a good enough job with what we told him, and it actually works at driving her away, he'll be a mess once it all falls apart, as he initially intended it to. It's generally easier to be the one initiating the breakup than being dumped, unless you have tremendous confidence. If you're actually choosing to just show your more vulnerable side and that's what drives the girl away, that could be pretty dangerous for most guys' ego when she dumps them for it. I've considered this before, but never actually done it because of this consideration. I'd rather just break it off and avoid the risk of "going native" in a beta role.

Author:  vhou812 [ Sat May 18, 2013 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ending a 15 month relationship.

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Sometimes you have to be dishonest to avoid hurting those you care about. That's just how it is. Breaking up like a man and just walking away will wreck this girl and the OP is a good person for not wanting that to happen. The thing is, Magical's method is very difficult to pull off unless you're 100% sure you don't want to be with this girl, and can avoid the feelings coming back once SHE's the one that starts to express disinterest.
This is a common mistake people make, PUAs and your average ordinary guy or gal.

I agree, the OP is a good person for not wanting to hurt someone else, but playing games like this is not a good idea. A great guy would have more respect for the woman he doesn't want to be with anymore, and himself too. What happens when he goes all clingy and needy and she wants out? If she's an alpha, she cuts the cord and does it right. If she's not, then what's to say she doesn't start acting all bitchy or needy on purpose to try to get him to end the relationship so she doesn't hurt him?

The only good advice is for the OP to think it through, and stick to his decision. If the girl has any maturity someday in her life, she'll thank him for being straight. Everything else, IMHO, is just a beta's way of justifying not being man.

Author:  DboTheHero [ Sat May 18, 2013 7:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ending a 15 month relationship.

Don't play some beta game with her, that's unfair after 15 months together. Simply talk to her, be gentle about it and try to avoid criticising her; put the reason for the break up on you. It will not be easy, trust me.

Author:  Themagicalone [ Sun May 19, 2013 4:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ending a 15 month relationship.

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Don't play some beta game with her, that's unfair after 15 months together. Simply talk to her, be gentle about it and try to avoid criticising her; put the reason for the break up on you. It will not be easy, trust me.
THIS tell her why you want to break up, stand firm with your decision and move on. The biggest thing is to stand firm with your decision she will try to draw you back in with crying and other tactics, let her know this is the right decision and its best you go no contact for awhile as you wouldn't want to lead her on.

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