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Author:  Xylophobia [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Fucked up first date or shit test?

I am still thinking from time to time at this girl. She was my crush and I knew I couldn't do the things great because I'd turn eventually needy and creepy. I am still at the beginning of this marvelous pick up artist journey and I don't have many options waiting for me, I am quite shy although I am trying my best to beat BB.
This girl is in the same highschool as me. Same neighborhood, her class is just nearby and I inevitably met her. I've told myself to approach her during school time, but I couldn't hold any contact with her (either me being a pussy, or different schedule).
So I tried talking to her on facebook. The first mistake I did, but I couldn't hold myself without speaking to her. I knew at that point that she might be interested in me so we started talking, me constantly running out of subjects, but I kept it alive. When I tried to set up a date, she told me she's busy that day and that we should hang another day. Then I turned needy as fuck again, saying there's no need to apologise and crap like that. She tried to explain she was going out with her old friends, but I was on my idea. In the end, I turned back to the right postion and told her we should meet one day. She agreed.

So while I had this conversation, I found out she was a broken hearted girl and she got inlove with the wrong persons.
I waited like almost two weeks or something similar, trying to talk to her in reality, still couldn't so I had to use facebook again.
We talked, she gave me her phone number and she promised me she will make free time for the hangout.

I could tell you at that point she was interested. But how I like to fuck up things, I slowly probably turned her off with me being maybe too cocky and she didn't liked it and she got angered.
But after all this stuff, she agreed to meet me in a Friday afternoon, almost rejecting my hang purpose because I was fucking around.
So we walked around the neighborhood, because we decided to stay in the area (tbh she told me to stay around so I agreed). I tried to keep the convo alive, asked her this and that, I was feeling really uncomfortable and nervous and my mind was going blank sometimes. Maybe less than an hour it was our meet because she had to go and I had to go too.
I couldn't kino her, nor I jumped for the kiss because it'd be too fucking creepy so the psychics was pretty poor.

So I sent her a text only after 3 days or something telling her that the meet was nice and I'd like to know more about her in further dates. She told me it was ok, but that we don't have too much in common and it won't work out. So I gladly accepted and said "It's okay, it's your decision and I respect it".
Fuck up big time. I know and I reckon my mistakes:
#too needy
#too cocky (I did this because I tried to tease and neg her, but apparently I need to read that stuff again since it's all messed for me)
#being not entertaining in the hang-out (I just couldn't do more)
#then I fucked it up even more texting her "We can be like friends".

I tried to impress her, not seduce her. That's the bad mindset.
I am kinda in trouble right now thinking about this. I have few more options now so I kinda don't give a fuck about losing up this chick, but I would like to seduce her for real, not act like a fucking AFC.
I don't know the answer of the question though. Was she shit testing me so she could see if I really care about going in for more dates, or I completely turned her off with that first date? I don't know what to think, because I wasn't like that really bad in the date and I couldn't do more about it. My instinct tells me she is still interested and she was either shit testing me or probably another boy in her life before me. Now she keeps posting love songs on facebook (just saying, these might not be for me anyway, or they are not for me) and tonight she liked one of my facebook statuses and uploaded a cover similar to mine (I had a picture of Francisco Lachowski).

Author:  om3n [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fucked up first date or shit test?

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The first mistake I did, but I couldn't hold myself without speaking to her. I knew at that point that she might be interested in me so we started talking, me constantly running out of subjects, but I kept it alive. When I tried to set up a date, she told me she's busy that day and that we should hang another day.
You "talked" to her via fb. Next time better use a phonecall, or even better, talk to her in person. It's not that bad if she's proposed another day when you two could meet.
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I found out she was a broken hearted girl and she got inlove with the wrong persons.
They all are, they all do.
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I tried to keep the convo alive, asked her this and that, I was feeling really uncomfortable and nervous and my mind was going blank sometimes.
When you keep on executing one thing dozens of times and you just feel it keeps failing, you need to change the approach. In this situation, maybe learn to STFU, let her reinitiate the convo, don't think of "how can I please her" that much. Or if you feel the need to say something, just make a random statement.
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I couldn't kino her, nor I jumped for the kiss because it'd be too fucking creepy so the psychics was pretty poor.
Next time, just hug her when you meet her and start from there. Hold her hand ASAP, be touchy. If she objects, tell her you're like that. If you won't question your own actions, she won't resist much.
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She told me it was ok, but that we don't have too much in common and it won't work out.
LJBF
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#being not entertaining in the hang-out (I just couldn't do more)
What? Man, you should be more worried about how can she entertain you. She didn't pay you to entertain her, nor would you accept such an arrangement, right? So why would you do that for free? Just let a little joke slip here and there. Be sarcastic, non-serious about things.

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I tried to impress her, not seduce her. That's the bad mindset.
EXACTLY

To answer your question, I think it's a LJBF message from her side. But you've got nothing to lose, take her out once again (or, and that would be better, just bup into her randomly somewhere), stop giving a crap about how does she like what you do, be a leader, enjoy yourself, do something simple you like, I mean let her be a guest in your own program. Do not engineer things so she can have fun. The goal of the date is not to entertain her, it's to show her your personality by taking actions.

Author:  Xylophobia [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fucked up first date or shit test?

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To answer your question, I think it's a LJBF message from her side.
I wonder how could this be possible when I know she was attracted to me.
As a further note, after she rejected my purpose for more hangouts, I texted her "Oh then we can be friends, I think" and she was like "Ok", seemed pretty disinterested.

Author:  om3n [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fucked up first date or shit test?

If she was really attracted at this moment, you would have her call you, text you, make plans for your next meeting. Even those who "play hard to get" do this.

Author:  Xylophobia [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:23 pm ]
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If she was really attracted at this moment, you would have her call you, text you, make plans for your next meeting. Even those who "play hard to get" do this.
I mean "I'll promise I'll make time for our meeting" is enough proof for me to show she's interested in hanging out. And all the texting before hanging out, we texted a lot, even when she was at disco she kept texting me in the evening.

Author:  Kopertyr [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:54 pm ]
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Thank you for the informative posts.

Author:  Xylophobia [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:56 pm ]
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Thank you for the informative posts.
What?

Author:  Xylophobia [ Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fucked up first date or shit test?

So should I tell her that I like her and that I want to hang out with her? What should I do?

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