PUA Forum :: find, meet, attract, close... then what?

Attracting and sleeping with a girl is pretty simple... but it's just the beginning. Of course they want to be my gf after I fuck them a few times, that goes without saying...

I guess that I am confused about who I should be... the same me that picked her up or the person I am at home. The person I am that attracts women, Matthew Lovecraft, or Matt... is not the person I am day to day.... Trent.... I guess that the strange part for me is that I am a professional entertainer now. That is the character I have developed and that is what women are attracted to.

What I'm getting at is that women say, I want a boyfriend who is nice and doesn't play games and whatever other stuff they say, but we all know that women are not attracted to that sort of guy. But what do they want in the relationship? Do they want a pua... or a boyfriend..?

I tried being the same person I was when I picked her up, in my relationship w/my ex and she started asking questions like who am I dating; Matt or Trent..? and honestly I didn't know how to answer.

Matt is a outgoing, fun, player who likes to just have a good time... Trent is an introverted quiet, serious writer and student, who is interested in personal growth and achieving goals, not going out on the town and partying.

I can easily do one or the other, but not both at the same time. I kept acting like Matt when I was in my relationship and she told me that she was in love with Trent... but because of my work as an entertainer (mentalist) I have to maintain my image as Matthew Lovecraft.

This is the second gf I've pushed away in the past year because they were attracted to Matt, and then realized they were in a relationship with Trent... Am I supposed to keep being this other person and not let them see who I really am?

And if so, what kind of a relationship is that? In other words women are attracted to Matt, but I want to be Trent, in my relationships, but I can't seem to find the balance between these two sides of my personality.

I know that sounds confusing and I'm back and forth, but frankly I'm confused about how to engage in a healthy relationship. She kept orbiters around and I didn't and it bothered me. But who want's to play jealously games in a LTR..?

I guess my question is this... What are we here for really? To just keep cycling through girl after girl for the rest of our lives, or to establish long lasting relationships and find someone we want to be with for the rest of our lives? I want to engage in healthy relationships, but I'm not sure how to do that.

There is scant advice from the professional pua's, but I think that's because they want us to keep buying their CD's or whatever... How should I go about my next relationship? Getting them is easy... keeping them seems to be hard...

Author:	~LEVIATHAN~ [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:31 pm ]
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So getting girls is pretty easy after 4 years of practice in the field. But, much like what women say they want in a relationship isn't what attracts them... What attracts them doesn't seem to work in relationships. Any relationship advice?

Author:	pumpington [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:50 pm ]
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what do you mean?, it's pretty straight forward, you pick up a girl, start sleeping with her, if you hang out with her often while sleeping with her, she will probably want to be your girlfriend how do you maintain the relationship?, just be the same you that picked her up, and keep having sex with her and hanging out on the regular, there is nothing different you have to do for either, just make sure you get into a relationship with a girl you know you like and want to be with for a long time, looks alone as the only thing you care about can lead to some really shitty relationships, if you don't like her as person and there is no chemistry, the relationship will die as soon as sex gets boring

Author:	~LEVIATHAN~ [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:58 pm ]
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Attracting and sleeping with a girl is pretty simple... but it's just the beginning. Of course they want to be my gf after I fuck them a few times, that goes without saying... I guess that I am confused about who I should be... the same me that picked her up or the person I am at home. The person I am that attracts women, Matthew Lovecraft, or Matt... is not the person I am day to day.... Trent.... I guess that the strange part for me is that I am a professional entertainer now. That is the character I have developed and that is what women are attracted to. What I'm getting at is that women say, I want a boyfriend who is nice and doesn't play games and whatever other stuff they say, but we all know that women are not attracted to that sort of guy. But what do they want in the relationship? Do they want a pua... or a boyfriend..? I tried being the same person I was when I picked her up, in my relationship w/my ex and she started asking questions like who am I dating; Matt or Trent..? and honestly I didn't know how to answer. Matt is a outgoing, fun, player who likes to just have a good time... Trent is an introverted quiet, serious writer and student, who is interested in personal growth and achieving goals, not going out on the town and partying. I can easily do one or the other, but not both at the same time. I kept acting like Matt when I was in my relationship and she told me that she was in love with Trent... but because of my work as an entertainer (mentalist) I have to maintain my image as Matthew Lovecraft. This is the second gf I've pushed away in the past year because they were attracted to Matt, and then realized they were in a relationship with Trent... Am I supposed to keep being this other person and not let them see who I really am? And if so, what kind of a relationship is that? In other words women are attracted to Matt, but I want to be Trent, in my relationships, but I can't seem to find the balance between these two sides of my personality. I know that sounds confusing and I'm back and forth, but frankly I'm confused about how to engage in a healthy relationship. She kept orbiters around and I didn't and it bothered me. But who want's to play jealously games in a LTR..? I guess my question is this... What are we here for really? To just keep cycling through girl after girl for the rest of our lives, or to establish long lasting relationships and find someone we want to be with for the rest of our lives? I want to engage in healthy relationships, but I'm not sure how to do that. There is scant advice from the professional pua's, but I think that's because they want us to keep buying their CD's or whatever... How should I go about my next relationship? Getting them is easy... keeping them seems to be hard...

Author:	pumpington [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:10 pm ]
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Quote: Attracting and sleeping with a girl is pretty simple... but it's just the beginning. Of course they want to be my gf after I fuck them a few times, that goes without saying... I guess that I am confused about who I should be... the same me that picked her up or the person I am at home. The person I am that attracts women, Matthew Lovecraft, or Matt... is not the person I am day to day.... Trent.... I guess that the strange part for me is that I am a professional entertainer now. That is the character I have developed and that is what women are attracted to. What I'm getting at is that women say, I want a boyfriend who is nice and doesn't play games and whatever other stuff they say, but we all know that women are not attracted to that sort of guy. But what do they want in the relationship? Do they want a pua... or a boyfriend..? I tried being the same person I was when I picked her up, in my relationship w/my ex and she started asking questions like who am I dating; Matt or Trent..? and honestly I didn't know how to answer. Matt is a outgoing, fun, player who likes to just have a good time... Trent is an introverted quiet, serious writer and student, who is interested in personal growth and achieving goals, not going out on the town and partying. I can easily do one or the other, but not both at the same time. I kept acting like Matt when I was in my relationship and she told me that she was in love with Trent... but because of my work as an entertainer (mentalist) I have to maintain my image as Matthew Lovecraft. This is the second gf I've pushed away in the past year because they were attracted to Matt, and then realized they were in a relationship with Trent... Am I supposed to keep being this other person and not let them see who I really am? And if so, what kind of a relationship is that? In other words women are attracted to Matt, but I want to be Trent, in my relationships, but I can't seem to find the balance between these two sides of my personality. I know that sounds confusing and I'm back and forth, but frankly I'm confused about how to engage in a healthy relationship. She kept orbiters around and I didn't and it bothered me. But who want's to play jealously games in a LTR..? I guess my question is this... What are we here for really? To just keep cycling through girl after girl for the rest of our lives, or to establish long lasting relationships and find someone we want to be with for the rest of our lives? I want to engage in healthy relationships, but I'm not sure how to do that. There is scant advice from the professional pua's, but I think that's because they want us to keep buying their CD's or whatever... How should I go about my next relationship? Getting them is easy... keeping them seems to be hard... start picking up girls without acting

Author:	livewiremax2 [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:02 am ]
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just keep it up but make sure you dont go overboard with contact as that can drive girls away

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Author:	intrigued101 [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:57 am ]
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Quote: start picking up girls without acting Ditto. Quote: This is the second gf I've pushed away in the past year because they were attracted to Matt, and then realized they were in a relationship with Trent... Am I supposed to keep being this other person and not let them see who I really am? I was the same 'me' when picking up my girlfriend as I am now a year in. Sure when sarging I up my energy a little but I'm not doing magic tricks, dropping prepped lines and playing games like the Cube. That's not my personality and so if I went down that road there's going to be a discrepancy when we start a relationship. For me pickup was learning a few concepts including negs, cocky-funny, kino, outcome independence and everything else was improving upon myself, my inner game. As I worked through my securities the gap between the pua persona and myself shrunk until the point where I can just be myself and that is attractive. I don't have a 'Matt' pua and 'Trent' day to day persona. I am one and the same. I like to think relationship me is pua me but you're just getting access to more of my time and resources (not just financial). A different point is keeping attraction levels high as a relationship progresses. I break this down into three areas: 1. Keep improving yourself. Improve your value; work out more, push your career, improve your social circle, take up new hobbies and interests. Upping your value makes you a better catch. 2. Don't stop being who you are. Continue to tease her, make her work a little, act like a cocky arsehole every now and then. She was attracted to alpha but alpha doesn't make you a good boyfriend. In fact alpha won't become a monogamous boyfriend. Beta makes a good boyfriend / provider but is dull, often subservient and ultimately unattractive. Girls always have this quandary "Why am I attracted to such arseholes. Kevin is a dick but I just want to fuck him silly. James is so nice but I just don't fancy him..." Be a mixture of alpha and beta. 3. Continue to date each other. Schedule a weekly date night and do something interesting. Go to a tango class together, shag in the local park, go to a gig, whatever but keep injecting excitement into each other's lives. Routine and taking each other for granted are relationship killers. Quote: I guess my question is this... What are we here for really? To just keep cycling through girl after girl for the rest of our lives, or to establish long lasting relationships and find someone we want to be with for the rest of our lives? I want to engage in healthy relationships, but I'm not sure how to do that. Sounds like your goal in pick up is changing. If you want to bang as many chicks as possible keep being Matt and forget relationships, commitment and monogamy. However if you do want a relationship then you need to be yourself, Trent, not your stage or pua persona but the person you are the majority of your time. You will probably find a shift in the type of girl that is attracted to Trent over Matt. Perhaps you're not going to find the Trent loving girl in a club on a Saturday night. If you're seriously after a LTR you'll screen for a good girl and won't waste time on the freaks and hoes. You'll learn your type and more importantly what type of girl digs you. This greatly speeds up the process of finding your relationship girl. I worked out my type is arty, chilled, kooky, creative girls. I like them and they click with my way of thinking and lifestyle. Going out with a high heeled princess aint gunna work for me. Your mileage will differ.

Author:	Wolfwoodd [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:12 pm ]
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In PUA, you can act and pretend to have alpha male qualities and this will get you laid. To be good at relationships, you actually have to attain those qualities. -Wolf

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