Most other guys out there are either relationship impaired, insecure, poor leaders or terrible in bed. They make all the classic dumb-guy mistakes. The reason we are here is to learn to be better then that. Once you figure this stuff out then you will be a very high value guy and you wont get cheated on (at least not for the first two years or so).

Once you really internalize all this stuff, then you may even get to the point where monogamy isn't even appealing anymore (poly-amory is much more fun). Then you'll be able to talk openly about sex and lust with your partners. It's very liberating and completely cuts out the need for lies and deceit. You'll stop worrying about what your girlfriend is doing when she's not around and focus on more important things, like how she treats you.

Just my 2 cents.

-Wolf

So what happens for the next years?? ... I've known couples that have been together way over 5 years or more and they claim to have been loyal, and marriages of 25 years with loyalty all the way.
But, why would a girl that is happy in the relationship. Girls I know that have cheated are either because theyre sexually unsatisfied, or boyfriend basically ignores them.
What are the odds of a girl who is sexually satisfied, always happy, not fighting, etc.. for her to cheat?

cheaters gonna cheat, can't stop it, just have to find a mature person who likes the idea of monogamy

also the more attractive you can make yourself the more anxiety of loss you can put behind your partner to give them the idea that if they cheat they could lose you

but in reality just about every girl I have met that has cheated, always cheats, and just about every girl that doesn't cheat, doesn't cheat

it is the person, not really what you do, some people will only cheat to trade up, some people cheat simply because they are turned on by idea of cheating, some people will cheat because things are getting dull, some people plain and simple will never cheat under any circumstances and are 100% loyal, and would rather just break up then cheat

guys and girls are both pretty much the same when it comes to cheating IMO,

just like old people shitting in diapers, totally depends

i'd pretty much agree with this. just out of 2 year relationship. I cheated a few times but I found out she had another bit on the side. I questioned her on it months ago and she denied but my sixth sense told me she was lying. I finally took the step to check her email and phone. found out everything. kicked her out. thing was I wasnt pissed off about the cheating...I had said in a open relationship don't lie to me. if you lie its goodbye. she just wants the drama, loves to gossip about it to her other friends according to her emails. just a total bitch.

thing is ,she left her watch behind. Now for some mad reason I feel bad and want to talk with her and give her the watch back. I'm thinkin just to freeze her out until she apologises but I sent her a pretty abusive message saying goodbye so she prob wont get in touch.

Look, sure.. sometimes it works out. But he relationships that work out well are statistically in the minority. Monogamy is a pretty flawed system.

I wrote a whole post about it here: drama-free-relationships-4-monogamy-vt1 ... t=monogamy

Now, ask yourself "why would somebody who's happy eating sushi every single day, want to have any other kind of food?" It's essentially the same question you are asking me. The answer is that they get bored with having sushi everyday. Even if you have the best sushi in the world, some day you're just going to want a hamburger. It's the same for sex.

Furthermore, after 2 years in a relationship, the relationship endorphins start to mellow out. You don't get quite the same rush when your with your partner. It's a biological phenomenon. We are programed to stay with our lovers long enough to have a kid (and if you have kids, then the endorphins last longer). The mutually codependent people tend to stay together happily after the endorphins are gone, but everyone else either breaks up, cheats, or is miserable.

/I like Fisher's strategy

-Wolf

Most of your statements are flat-out wrong and predicated on twisted logic. Looks more like cynicism than anything. Likely some heavy projecting going on here.

cheaters gonna cheat, can't stop it, just have to find a mature person who likes the idea of monogamy

also the more attractive you can make yourself the more anxiety of loss you can put behind your partner to give them the idea that if they cheat they could lose you

but in reality just about every girl I have met that has cheated, always cheats, and just about every girl that doesn't cheat, doesn't cheat

it is the person, not really what you do, some people will only cheat to trade up, some people cheat simply because they are turned on by idea of cheating, some people will cheat because things are getting dull, some people plain and simple will never cheat under any circumstances and are 100% loyal, and would rather just break up then cheat

guys and girls are both pretty much the same when it comes to cheating IMO,

just like old people shitting in diapers, totally depends

I agree here.
IMO, comes down to the integrity of the person. Cheating is a victimless crime in a sense. If the person getting cheated on doesn't know, they aren't hurt. The whole "be alpha enough and fill her needs" thing is bs as it mostly depends on the person. Even if she is afraid of losing you, there are ways to cheat on you that would never risk you even finding out. Most people don't commit crimes because out of fear of getting caught or the fear of hurting someone else. But if you found $1,000 on the street, no one was around, would you pick it up? This is a victimless crime and if you would odds are you would cheat if you couldn't get caught. Ask yourself, what stops YOU from cheating. Find a girl with integrity, who CAN'T cheat because her conscience would nag her too much. A girl who wouldn't do something wrong even if they could get away with it easily.