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Author:  Abdul-aAfc [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  i need your help, I am totally confused.
There is this girl at my highschool who I acually met on our induction and we hit it off immediately. I have never felt a stronger connection to anyone. Obviously I used some pua stuff to build more rapport.

The fact is she is like a female pua. She uses all the push, pull things that we use. One moment she will act really excited to see me and the next it is as if I don't even exist. Strange thing is it's actually working.

I really like her but her use of push and pull, whether intentional or not means that I am not even sure whether she likes me back.

She does a couple of things which makes me think that she is interested.

1) She get's visibly upset if I am talking to one of her female friends. She once said "They fancy each other" in a jealous tone.

2) Her profile picture on facebook is one of me and her. She has kept it there since the day it was taken.

3) She pretends to not know her guy friends when I am around.

I know that it may seem pretty ovious but are there any routines I can use to find out for sure without straight up asking her out?
Author:  nikki valentine [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:17 am ]
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Id be careful of the chics who do push-pull. I once dated a girl who did the same thing and she turned out to be insecure to the point of stupidity. With those kinds of people though your best bet is to play cool and try not to show too much interest, maybe hint every now and then. And hey you can always plan a "shopping trip" because you need a female opinion to help build rapport and what not
Author:  Abdul-aAfc [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:39 am ]
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Cheers for that. That is a good idea.
Author:  Txacoli [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:39 pm ]
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I think she really likes you and sometimes gets worried you don't like her back so she becomes cold. I think there are enough signs she likes you and you should "ask her out", I mean arrange a get together where there is no doubt that it's a romantic kind of date. You can then see how she reacts to you and take it from there. Don't let her behavior throw you off, she's just a girl with a lot of insecurities (just as any other girl) and also needs to feel reassured you like her back. I think you should just go for it! Good luck :)
Author:  Abdul-aAfc [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:22 pm ]
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Txacoli you are a girl so what will you recommend as a romantic location? There is a really nice park in our city. Bright flowers, green lush grass just everything. I was thinking about having a picnic with just me and her.

Does that sound like a good idea?
Author:  Txacoli [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:16 pm ]
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That sounds great! I wasn't referring to a specific location, but just making it very clear to her that you're asking her out in a romantic way and not to hang out as friends. The picnic idea sounds very good, although I'd keep that as a second or third date. Maybe you can go to a zoo, or just for a walk and a coffee etc. for your first date. If you meet during the day time and all goes lovely, you can prolong your date and invite her to your place for a movie or something more relaxed after an action-filled day. This way you can bond more intensively. Just an idea. If you decide that picnic is the way to go, you can still do the same after the picnic. Actually, the more I think about it, I think picnic is a great idea. Do you have a plan how you'll invite her? Keep us posted how it goes!
Author:  Iwan [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:13 pm ]
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be careful. If she's the type I'm thinking about, she'll lose all attraction when You show any sign of needyness. I I were You I would do some serious P&P on her. Fight fire with fire mate:)
Author:  Abdul-aAfc [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:06 am ]
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I was just going to ask her with something along the lines of "I will like to get to know you better outside the confines of this high school, to really get to know you better. How about Saturday".

To be honest she was hinting that she wanted us to go out but I stupidly gave her a list of long things I had doing. I thought it will make me look like I didn't revolve around her. Turns out it just de-motivated her into asking me.

In the meantime, keep the suggestions coming. I will ask her tomorrow and keep you updated.
Author:  Iwan [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:15 am ]
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Nah, stay cool. You did right thing. She'll act distant for sometime but she'll come back. Be nice to her, but on the other hand let her see You flirting or just talking to other girls. Her imagination will do the work for You. Oh and btw, never ask! tell her, command her, but never ever ask.
Author:  Abdul-aAfc [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:18 am ]
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Iwan so basically just tell her so she can say yes or no but not make it seem like i am pleading with her?
Author:  Iwan [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:27 am ]
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hell no! say something like " I'm going to blah blah blah, You go with me?" if she say no or hesitate, go with some other girl.
Remeber - people always want something they cannot have. But still be nice to her. If she says no say ok and leave. No begging no pleading. It will ruin your chances. If girl starts playing games with me I cut her bullshit out, or I start to play with her till she's cock hungry:) Send her some mixed signals, P&P all the way.
Author:  Abdul-aAfc [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:49 am ]
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Update: I am going on a date with her in a few days. :)

Wish me luck.
Author:  Iwan [ Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:51 pm ]
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keeping my fingers crossed mate. But don't get too excited!
Author:  Abdul-aAfc [ Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:41 pm ]
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Cheers dude. I am truly grateful for everyone's help.

What do you suggest I do kino-wise to show my intentions?
Author:  swagstar [ Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:40 pm ]
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If thing's are going well and she doesn't mind if you slightly kino her (like put your arm on her shoulder, waist etc....), then bounce her by grabbing her hand. Check for the IOI, so squeeze her hand and if she squeezes back, good job bro. Then this is where you use Style's phase-shift and get intimidate with her. Btw, bounce her somewhere you guys can be alone (another IOI as how she decides to go somewhere more private).
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