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Author:  Troyden [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Shamefully AFC...
Ok guys, LTR problems :o

We've been going out for two weeks, and I'm already confused, here's my dilema

When we are on the phone, texing and on facebook we talk, everything is fine but, when we are in person, she ALWAYS talks to her friends and mine, she hardly talks to me and when she does, she's quiet, I've brought this up to her and she says she's always quiet but, she really isn't

I've said to her I get the feeling that she doesn't want a relationship with me but she says she REALLY does, I'm always the one to initiate texting, she texts MY friends before me, and I'm just being COMPLETELY AFC about it :(

Every time, I try to have an LTR I mess it up because, I actually like them so, what should I do ?

Should I be more alpha, freeze her out, make jealousy plotlines ? I have no idea because, it's hard to tell what she is thinking, I just need help to fix this :cry:

Thanks guys :D

Peace,

Troyden :D
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:12 pm ]
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stuff likes this creates frustration attraction...

i have been frustrated attracted so many times .. actually i also been it a few months ago.

you need to act the opposite.. get her out of your life.. i know how hard it is. But you are already attracted in a frustrated way - she already won like 85 % of the game. once you are in this state you will fuck things up unconciously - you will allow her to treat you in a shitty way.

you will get angry on yourself for letting it happen to you

like 6 months ago i had the same problem...i met a woman.. we talked , flirted, very harcore cocky sexual flirting BUT it never went anywhere... Look nobody garuanteed me sex in an relationship... but you have to know when a woman is using you or not.

You don't know what she thinks.. it could be she :

1. has superhuge game and she knows how to manipulate guys
2. she isn't attracted

What a woman says is crap... never believe what she says.

you are dating her for 2 weeks ... you need to cut it off now .. you cannot waste time on her. If you are thinking about what she's doing or who she's probably fucking with you are already in it TOO DEEP....

i have been in 2 month , 4 month relationship with woman similair to your situation... it's a fucking brutal way to lose girls in that manner... im im still a little bit traumatized by some of those experiences ( as a human being). But when a girl isn't attracted - when she doesn't chase you or want you you have to let her go before you fall into a provider relationship.

fact:

you are getting needy
you are getting attached

you are only dating for 2 weeks... she clearly isn't attracted....

if she really wants you you need to ingore her and not intiate contact... if she really likes you and want you, she would chase you. If i really want to buy that new flatscreen i would work my ass off in order to get enough $ to buy it...

if you are getting needy after 2 weeks you are in bad shape... do not compromise your values and who you are for some vagina.. it isn't worth it. I've seen so many guys changing their lifestyles and waste their time just because they were fucking needy and attached to someone who didn't really want them.

freeze her out .. act like she doesn't exist and let it sink into your brain that your time is very expensive....you only live that many years and you can only do a certain amount of stuff... don't waste the majority of time in woman that aren't attracted or woman that you are unsure of....

everything you do .. jealousy plotlines, changing yourself to be more alpha .. all that shit is changing who you really are in order to impress her....the more you iinvest in her and the more you try to impress the more you will get attached.

i know it isn't easy to back down from what you really want..

i had this particular situation ( 4 years ago ) where i had a relationship with this hot model but like after 3 weeks i didn't had the feeling she was attracted. anyway i started impressing her with shit , cocky jokes , alpha behaviours, jealousy plotlines. in the 5th week of our relationship i saw her with another guy in some lounge... i walked up to her and she was shocked ( just like the dude she was with )... she wasn't responding to my text - she always txt her friends or my friends first...and she was with this guy...

i knew i should have ended it...i also decided to do it but reverting to my needy clingy behaviours .. why ? because i invested too much i changed who i really was...3 months later she dumped me for some meathead... not only had i deal with the breakup i also had to deal with the way i changed myself in order to be with her... ( terrible?)

why she dumped me .... she just called me after week of not contacting me at all and told me she's dumping me .. she hadn't any reason and it wasn't because of me( she said )

in other words .. she was not attracted... ( note .. i used a quitte fair amount of routines and that kind of shit 4 years ago )

and by way she said she liked me alot .. lol ... which isn''t true ...because if i look from my whole new modern perspective i know she wasn't attracted at all. it took me one whole year to recover from that break up .. im not joking...because i changed myself sooo much - dealing with the break up took me 2 or 3 weeks with some minor afteraffect when sarging solo... changing myself back to who i really was took me 1 year or more...

a few months after the break up i also learned that her former boyfriend was abusive ( like punching her) .. and she was addicted to coke..prior to the period where i hooked up with her.... you see ... i invested into somoeone who wasn''t worth the effort.

woman aren't saints.. get it out of your head..
Author:  Mack 2.0 [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:49 pm ]
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she is playing games.

your options are:

- win
- lose
- or, don't play

you need to opt for "win" or "don't play"

try to avoid opting for "lose"

she IS playing games, if she ignores you and pays lots of attention to everyone but you. she is an emotional whore.

fuck her sister.

film it.

you know how the rest of the story goes.
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:56 pm ]
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indeed...

if a woman isn't investing or chasing you she isn't attracted..
if she isn't attracted she is probably using you

i agree with the suggestion of fucking her sister
Author:  Troyden [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:22 pm ]
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Thanks, for the input guys but, I was thinking, and I think I have in the past few hours, convinced her to take the relationship further so, if I get that down, do you think I still have a good chance ? :D

Thanks,

Peace,

Troyden :D
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:29 pm ]
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you cannot convince a woman.. especially with logic..

trying to convince her will only waste your time.. probably leaving both you and her frustrated...

i tried to convince alot of woman tried to make them better humans but i never succeded.

if she really likes you she will intiate contact multiple times... if not then move on

you cannot force someone to love or like you

all humans lie to themselfs

you already know the truth

why are you lying to yourself... holding on to her like it's your last straw

stop dreaming like me right now, and wake up to find out you are still dreaming ;)
Author:  Olivier [ Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:39 pm ]
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Quote:
you cannot convince a woman.. especially with logic..
Soooo true, I've had a woman act all hot and cold on me, I tried everything and finally just decided I am no longer going to put any effort in the interaction. She flipped like a pancake ;) It was quite an experience but not a fun one....costed me about a year of my life.

Rule of thumb : If you are not having fun with a girl, get her out of your life.....
Exceptions: her being pregnant with your baby or just having her vagina amputated, in both cases she is allowed to act hot/cold
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