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| Author: | Sixpounder [ Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:11 am ] |
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I've been reading "Secrets to Speed Seduction" recently, it's my first look into the world of NLP. I had a couple of questions that I hope you guys will be kind enough to help me with: 1. What are the effects of alcohol on someone's susceptibility to NLP? Positives? Negatives? 2. A lot of the patterns/techniques in the Ross Jeffries book seem to involve me being very forward. I cannot imagine, for example, a female being comfortable with me charging in and asking "when you feel incredibly turned on, do you find yourself compelled to act on it?" or "have you ever been totally fascinated with someone...". I'm reticent to take such tactics into the field, I don't want to build up a reputation in the bars/clubs I visit as "that creepy guy who asks intrusive questions and brings up uncomfortable subjects". Are there any "patterns" you could share that sound more like something a normal human being might say? |
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| Author: | Mind Hacker [ Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:52 am ] |
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1. Yeah, i think drugs can change the effects of NLP/Hypnosis for better or worse, it could amplify the effects, since the drugs create an altered state already. But it's better if you find some study that tests it. 2. That's because you're using it with wrong mind set. If you're giving her the gift of feeling wonderful experiences why should you feel guilt or even think you're creepy? Start off with conversation frameworks to set up the groundwork for the basic patterns, so never start with the sexual paterns. Then build up when she's already trusting you and use the more intrusive patterns where you ask questions that access her deeper core. Remember, she wants you make her feel wonderful. If she doesn't want it, walk away because she isn't mentally healthy. And leave her better than you found her. |
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| Author: | Mikki [ Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:19 am ] |
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The alcohol problem is before anything else a problem of hygien And yeah, what you're doing is totally intrusive and inappropriate And to mind hacker, you don't have to say she's not mentally healthy because in REAL (and not in thoughts) if you're that cool you don't make up excuses for being stupid and laying it on others, that's not a good mindset at all But i'll tell you more, it's not even a question of mindset, because you're eventually gonna find someone who likes even when you have blond moments, it's a question for once to admitt the truth and not go nlp and hypnosis to make you feel better. that's anything but cool if you keep avoiding reality you're just gonna look for the next product endlessly |
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| Author: | Mind Hacker [ Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:03 pm ] |
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Mikki: are you aware what NLP and Hypnosis actually are? Do you know you can't really force anyone into doing anything that go against their morals? |
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| Author: | cerebralassassin [ Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:18 pm ] |
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mikki can i ask do you have a copy of dianetics and an e-meter at home by any chance? |
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| Author: | Mikki [ Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:48 pm ] |
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Mind hacker, you believe what they told you it was otherwise you didn't take time to really examine the areas founded upon an absolutely arbitrary superstitious dogma, an indian cemetery if you like an image. crazy, you know what is the difference between the e-meter and nlp/hypnosis ? the path is different but leading to the same doom. At a noteworthy difference though : the path you take with nlp/hypnose might be more dangerous for your mental health thus your body. Do you know what is apoplexy ? Seriously, do you think one of these guys will visit you at the hospital or recognize any guilt at court if something bad happens to you ? you know what guys ? make the tour of people who are experiencing problems first. Then come back and decide if you want to believe what they tell you that stuff is. |
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| Author: | cerebralassassin [ Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:01 am ] |
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yes i do know the difference but the way that you talk about hypnosis being evil makes me wonder if you believe in xenu? |
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| Author: | Mikki [ Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:49 am ] |
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what i'm saying is you really don't need to compare things i've always replied to a sincere question just look at nlp/hypnosis in itself It's evil because it's de-humanising people, i don't need to say more there is an enmity toward reality that is blatant in nlp/hypnosis we're living in reality and it's destroying people ability to grasp it with mental inflation it's dangerous because it is hostile to human nature and it is hostile to the fact that human evolve in a physic world. I insist on not developing further and i ask you rather to smell the bad deal and decline it As for those who do/teach/spread nlp/hypnosis, it's a crime against humanity which you will be brought to account and judged for. |
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| Author: | cerebralassassin [ Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:46 am ] |
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how can it be de-humanising somebody?? you cant just click your fingers and force someone to have sex with you. you could say that any form of psychology is evil because it pigeon-holes people into categories, some would say religion is evil because all it does is cause hostility and conflict over beliefs that cant be proved, everyone on this forum could be seen as evil as they are studying methods with the specific intent on having sex with only attractive women. |
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| Author: | Mikki [ Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:46 pm ] |
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psychology is a strange doctrine that had a public success but failed in the therapeutic area (the thing it was supposed to cover) nlp/hypnosis are based on voodoo and magic what are you expecting what about being reasonable about some stuff like a reasonable human would |
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| Author: | cerebralassassin [ Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:56 pm ] |
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me? i am expecting an answer i havent had one yet...... i want to know your point of view you seem to be judgemental yet you dont seem to have your own point of view. and then when questioned you turn it around to say that its unreasonable to ask that of you |
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| Author: | Mikki [ Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:09 pm ] |
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what is it you find hard to get when i say nlp/hypnosis is voodoo and magic ? |
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| Author: | cerebralassassin [ Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:15 pm ] |
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well have you practised voodoo,magic, hypnosis or nlp? i guess the point i am trying to make is do you understand hypnosis or nlp? or is it that you just think they're wrong through a moral objection? can i ask i have a feeling your a woman? |
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| Author: | Mikki [ Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:30 pm ] |
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it's both, it's moral and i've witnessed some stuff i'd rather not talk about in details yeah a feeling ? |
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| Author: | cerebralassassin [ Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:53 pm ] |
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are u female? |
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