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Author:  MickCoffee [ Mon May 31, 2010 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Feedback on Pattern
Softener + question.
Apologies if this sounds weird but just for the sake of a playful conversation have you ever been fascinated by someone you've just met?

*answers*

Yeah, you may have possibly met up with him before one night just to have a chat. As he looks at you you find yourself listening carefully to every detail of what he says entranced by the richness of his words and topics he speaks about.
You may also notice as you listen to him speak a warm luxourious feeling crawls up inside yourself, making you want to get closer to him and enjoy being in his company more.
You might also find these warm feelings grow stronger as they progress and as the night ends you end up walking home thinking of nothing but him. And as you think about him *pointing to self then point to her* you smile irradically.

This is a fascination pattern. What do you guys think?
Any alterations will also be appreciated :)

AFCCoffee :twisted:
Author:  Mind Hacker [ Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:34 am ]
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Looks ok, but it'll be weird if you bring it out of the blue.

You should have rapport and craft the conversation so it's natural to bring the pattern otherwise you look like Charles Manson.

This is the key part in SS most people get wrong and then complain that it's creepy.
Author:  MickCoffee [ Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:19 am ]
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Yeah I agree I wouldn't bring this out of the blue this would be after building rapport.
To be honest it's the first pattern I've made since I usually use patterns from R.J.

AFCCoffee :twisted:
Author:  Icewalker [ Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:33 am ]
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It's way too much pressure on the girl;

Change most of the "you feel this" statements to "people can", "some people", "a friend of mind" and so forth. At least for the initial part of the patterns, otherwise it just seems to be pointed too much in your targets direction and seems creepy.

And it seems much less like a fascination pattern and more of an attempt at building connection/"follow me around like a little puppy" type of a thing. It's not really clear about what you're trying to get out of it - and you want to be as clear and as compartmentalised as you can to get the benefit of (a) fractionating easily, (b) if one patterns doesn't work because of a specific element another will, and (c) because conversation topics naturally tend to focus on one specific area, having them bleed over like you are doing, might seem unnatural and forced.

I mean, a girl might not be into feeling warm feelings but she could still be easily fascinated, or a girl might not be easily fascinated but would love to feel warm feelings. And unless you really know how the girls mind works you will have no idea if she will reject something you're attempting to suggest because of something else you've said - so split up the different types of command phrases into different patterns.

But for the love of the gods please remove "warm luxourious feeling crawls up inside yourself" and replace it with "luxurious warm feeling gently melting/oozing/sliding/growing inside". Crawling = big negative unless you want her to possibly imagine something literally crawling up her back and/or inside her!
Author:  Mind Hacker [ Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:24 am ]
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Good advice from IceWalker.

Words are powerful. You want to get her imagining stuff that feels natural. If you overdo it her critical factor will block it.
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