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Author:  Mind Hacker [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:18 am ]
Post subject:  What's the best Ross Jeffries Seminar/product?
What's the best Ross Jeffries Seminar/product in your opinion? Why?

Thanks
Author:  rushdown23 [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:04 am ]
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Speed Seduction 3.0
Author:  Memento [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:00 pm ]
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Agreed. Finally finished it and realized exactly how powerful it is. The bonus tapes on SpeedLife are great too. Just ordered sexual frames, I'll post a SS3.0 review soon I think after I test it out a bit more.
Author:  Mind Hacker [ Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:26 am ]
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Quote:
Agreed. Finally finished it and realized exactly how powerful it is. The bonus tapes on SpeedLife are great too. Just ordered sexual frames, I'll post a SS3.0 review soon I think after I test it out a bit more.
Looking foward the review.

Thanks

Some people say the BHSC is the best, others say the DC2000 seminar videos are the best, others say Hyper Responsiveness (Palo Alto videos).

So, I wonder what's good on SS 3.0.

I like the free videos at http://www.speedseductionfree.com/ as well as the Advanced Masters Weekend seminar.
Author:  jacob600 [ Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:36 pm ]
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I highly recommend the Advanced Masters Weekend tapes once you have a foundation in place. It's great. The DC2000 has lots of great themes to borrow from.

If I had to pick just one ( I can't..:), it would be the newer 3.0 as long as you have some basic foundation.
Author:  Mind Hacker [ Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:52 pm ]
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Bumping this thread to remind you of writing the review. :D
Author:  rushdown23 [ Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Ross's thoughts on SS 3.0 versus 1.0 and 2.0
I cut and pasted this from his yahoo group prior to him releasing SS 3.0:

This new course, recorded Sept 2007 in London, presents a model that
I consider SS 3.0.

The 1.0 version was the original 1993 course that relied on guys
doing 90% of the talking
with memorized language patterns.

2.0(since 1997) relied on getting women to do most of the talking and
incorporating her answers
back into improvised, smaller patterns. It also taught energy and vibe.

3.0 Reduces even more the amount of talking/work you have to do,
relies very much on fractionation(including
fractionating among 4 vibes). The new applications for fractionation
are truly scary. And this course, has massively improved technology
for personal improvement, breaking through blocks and barriers,
lighting fast learning from even the toughest situations(NYIG), and
has some greatly improved opening games
and scenarios.

I am often asked: are the courses/materials from 1993-97 still
workable and valid?

You bet. The basic ideas of capturing and leading the imagination,
state control etc will never change. The canned language
patterns DO work. What I did in 1993 is still ten times better than
any of the PUA crap the imitators and impersonators are pumping out.

(Isn't that funny? It's 2008, 15 years later, and these children
STILL can't get their imitations of me down right. If they were Vegas
acts, they'd get fired for not capturing the original closely
enough. You know, some of them do seem like lounge lizards!)



But 3.0 is so much more powerful and so more easy and fun. And the
personal transformation work just kicks ass so hard.
Author:  Mind Hacker [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:49 pm ]
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It's interesting. I still think the Advanced Masters Weekend is the best.

If I would relearn SS it would be like this:

1) Advanced Masters Weekend ( approach, 4 doorways into a woman's mind, linear seminar making it easier to understand)
2) Dave Riker's Tech Manual ( to understand the tools that make a pattern )
3) Hyper responsiveness (to learn SRT)
4) SS 3.0 ( to get an upgrade to the new model )
5) Bishop's Journal ( to get some ideas for patterns and skills of using her own processes )
Author:  rushdown23 [ Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:26 pm ]
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Mine would be

1. Riker's Tech Manual (linear model of SS, concepts of how the subconscious mind works, hearing Riker's tonality, model of all the tools)
2. Basic Home Study Course (conversational frameworks, examples of incredible connection and discovery channel pattern done by RJ, "let's go have some fun" mindset, brother Orion speaking in it)
3. SS 3.0 (different ways to fractionate, seduction questions, games and quizzes to play, a roadmap of how to do a walkup, I you shift, embedded suggestions vs embedded commands, how to get her to imagine going on a vacation with you and the theory behind why its useful to do in a sarge, paris hilton joke, voicemail messages to leave)
4. Palo Alto (SRT, beliefs, intent, magical self ritual)
5. LA 1999 (Gemini pattern, Kamal talking about trance hijacking)
6. DC 2000 (ross does example of how to ask questions to a woman on stage, the words to use to create a sliding anchor, verbal ratification is explained by major mark, looping commands after you read a poem to her, fractionation explained by major mark)
7. Riker's conversation and language course (exercises on how to use the tools, how to pattern on the fly, great examples by Riker)
8. Gold Walkups DVD (how to do approaches)

I haven't listened to or read
Bishop's stuff, Nail Your Inner Game, Mindframe Persuasion, secrets to irresistble arousal, beyond confidence, advanced masters weekend
Author:  Mind Hacker [ Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:27 pm ]
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That's a good list clockw0rk.

I was noticing most PUA gurus copy RJ.

I'm seeing push-pull material in one of his openers in those old tapes. Like he gives a compliment and then takes away.

I'm seeing stuff to control your own state (stuff RSD is using now).

RJ is really a pioneer.
Author:  rushdown23 [ Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:10 pm ]
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I've seen RJ use the " I'm from L.A., beauty is common..." line in one of his seminars. Mystery uses this line for A3. I've also heard RJ doing that, "I don't have much time to talk.." bit way before the term false time constraint was even invented. RJ would call it framing yourself as a challenge. RJ also discovered using The Cube way before Style. That, and hand writing analysis formed the basis of what PUAs now call cold reading. SSers do cold reading the best because we also use it to bring up themes and embed commands.
Author:  SmoothDok [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:57 am ]
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I just got to talk to Ross Jeffries, and he agreed to do a seminar in Amsterdam (26-03-2011).

As he said he's going to do some changework on a guy 2. So would like to see that (before and after).
Author:  Tenant [ Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:31 am ]
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Oh my god, I have pretty much all the products you two listed, if I don't get this stuff to work I'll feel terrible.
Author:  Pinocchio [ Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:32 pm ]
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I agree about Advanced Masters Weekend being Ross' best. However, I would recommend learning some formal trance inductions with friends, family and strangers to get you comfortable with it, and then start making it more covert.
I've heard a lot of people raving about J.D. Fuentes, claiming he blows SS out of the waters, so it'd be worthwhile having a look at his stuff.
Vince Kelvin is somebody else who has got some very useful tools for learning SS.
Author:  Funboy [ Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:46 pm ]
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I di Ross Jeffries Speed sedctuin V3, then was fortunate do a course in NLP, where it all fitted together nicely.
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