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| Author: | zhukaching [ Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | SS not working on non-native speaker..need help |
hey guys im a big fan of ross' SS stuff, and it had been working great for me. until yesterday i tried to do it on a non-native english speaker (asian), and it doesnt seems to work.. i was wondering if there is anyway i can overcome this problem? or is this the weakness of SS |
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| Author: | R.G. [ Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:16 pm ] |
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Yeah that's an excellent point, I noticed that too. What I've done is just to use less verbal game and work the non-verbal dimensions of NLP. But in terms of SS I haven't found a solution...I actually remember when I first realised this I was in town and this chick in a 3-set was point at (or around) me. I walked about 50 feet over to them and opened them, went straight into some SS, then it occurred to me that they couldn't speak English that well and weren't hooking at all. Haha. So I started speaking in German You also have to focus on certain parts of SS that aren't heavily reliant on the spoken word. For example capturing and leading their imagination...it only takes a few words to get them to do this. Or making her feel body sensations. Eliciting her values etc is tough because they may not understand what you're getting at. Whenever I'm sarging foreign chicks I tend to lessen the word usage and just exude non-verbal communication: massive smile, big actions, laughter and one-word conversations. Also convey attitude and personality like C&F. The other thing on a more general note is logistics...I'm based in Cambridge where there are always tourists in town...sometimes logistics are great for SNL's, other times with tourists they're terrible like they're leaving tonight. I try and find this out early to save me time. |
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| Author: | zhukaching [ Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:12 am ] |
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awww... thats sad.. no cheat sheet for Asian. I better polish my chinese for SS ;P |
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| Author: | Cock_roach [ Sun May 10, 2009 1:43 pm ] |
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NLP works mainly in language of your target. In some sense, it's a game with the words and words have different meaning fot representatives of different cultures and countries. NLP is based on associations, and you can only fully associate words with other words when you have a good command of the language. It can be a barrier. |
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