PUA Forum :: did we just lose 2 NLPers

The reason the NLP section has died down is because people don't understand NLP.

The vast majority of people who show up in here ask a variation of the questions "HEYCAN U TEACH ME NLP? LOLZ" , "dUdE, where cAn i learn NLPz? k thx bye", or even more common "yOz canz youz teachez mez thez Octoberz manz man?"

There are some of us who actually study NLP and understand it quite well.

The feud between the two who have left the forum goes beyond what you see in the threads. It's not my place to go into detail though. All I can say is I stand by the decision made by the staff of this forum.

As for RussianBear, he was NOT always as laid back as he makes himself out to be. While it is true that he was a valuable forum member for the majority of his stay, it wasn't always the case. I got into a couple heated arguments with him, after which he became a productive, valuable forum member. The end of his membership here was quite possibly a repeat of the behaviour he displayed in his early days.

Links? I've been lurking for a while and I know him well and I cannot recall such things. Moreover, the only thing the man did was answer someone's question then took a hell of a beating in private messages. If you look at the one message he posted from Rafiel, seems that Rafiel is pretty insecure.

Only cuz you're a fucking idiot:

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As concerns your comments on speed seduction, you only further your misunderstanding of SS and it continues to surprise me that Chief gave you a sticky to answer SS and NLP questions.

Who the fuck is this guy and why is he so full of himself? Look at this private message i received:

"Excuse me, but if you haven't noticed the "Ask Rafiel thread" is "Ask Rafiel", not "Ask RussianBear". I have already referred you to the moderators for swearing/flaming, and if you continue to infringe on my boundaries I will push further. If you wish to help members who have posted in my thread, please create a new thread from it. Thank you. If you have something against me then I apologise, but I am who I am and I can't change that. Sorry."

Dude, if you feel threatened by me, that is your problem. People here appreciate help, no matter who it comes from. That's the point, not feeding your ego. Grow up.

For those of you who haven't read the "Ask Rafiel" thread, the guy feels threatened because I offer help to people with questions. Apparently he feels this is a dick swinging contest or something as opposed to a place where guys can come for help, ask questions in a way that allows a variety of people to gie input.

Got this nice message from Chief:
"This is an official warning for your violation of forum rule #8. You hijacked a thread intended for a different purpose than for the direction in which you are steering it. Helping others is important, but so is doing so in an organized fashion for a forum environment.

This is also an additional warning for your violation of forum rule #2. If you cannot cease flaming, further action will be taken immediately.

If we discover that this has been a repeat offense from a second account (if you broke the rules on an older, banned account), your IP address will be banned from our server and you will not be able to return to our forum community."

Take your warning and shove it up your ass. I hijacked a thread? No, I answered a poster's question and Mr. Gamble seemed to have a problem with me helping someone. If helping others further themselves in the game, then this forum is seriously in peril.
I cannot flame. So, what your saying is it's cool for others to attack me, but I cannot respond. Hypocrite.

regardless of who was right and who was wrong, which I dont really care about, when an individual joins the forum and their first and only post is to defend someone who was banned recently I cant help but be a wee bit suspicious.

Author:	sheeshkabab [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:11 pm ]
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rafiel and russian bear .. both knew alot about this field and were also somewhat the people that kept this section of the forum going. i know the bear left but did rafiel also leave ....

Author:	fenderhead [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:34 pm ]
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The bear was banned for merely asking a question. He has returned to his sales job and second job of doing hypnotherapy, building a client base, etc. He's doing quite well. He's just waiting for this site to reimburse him the money he spent on the private forum since they can't dare have their authority questioned.

Author:	soup [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:45 pm ]
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regardless of who was right and who was wrong, which I dont really care about, when an individual joins the forum and their first and only post is to defend someone who was banned recently I cant help but be a wee bit suspicious.

Author:	sheeshkabab [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:51 pm ]
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even if he is russian bear, it doesnt matter . i still think they should let the issue go .. both of them return . get rusian his own thread . let bygones be bygones ...

Author:	fenderhead [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:56 pm ]
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Bear doesn't need his own thread. Never asked for one. Not what he's about. He was only here to contribute, not to have his ego stroked. This used to be an awesome community. He just tried to help, which is what he has always done, that's why he is a hypnotherapist, to help people get over problems.

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Author:	Reminis [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:36 pm ]
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Author:	fenderhead [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:47 pm ]
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I sincerely hope no kittens were injured in the making of that photograph

Author:	debiruman665 [ Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:46 pm ]
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I'm pretty new here and I have noticed this end of the board is a bit lacking which is a shame cause nlp is my main focus when pulling girls

Author:	zqawsxedcrfvtbgynhuj [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:46 am ]
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The reason the NLP section has died down is because people don't understand NLP. The vast majority of people who show up in here ask a variation of the questions "HEYCAN U TEACH ME NLP? LOLZ" , "dUdE, where cAn i learn NLPz? k thx bye", or even more common "yOz canz youz teachez mez thez Octoberz manz man?" There are some of us who actually study NLP and understand it quite well. The feud between the two who have left the forum goes beyond what you see in the threads. It's not my place to go into detail though. All I can say is I stand by the decision made by the staff of this forum. As for RussianBear, he was NOT always as laid back as he makes himself out to be. While it is true that he was a valuable forum member for the majority of his stay, it wasn't always the case. I got into a couple heated arguments with him, after which he became a productive, valuable forum member. The end of his membership here was quite possibly a repeat of the behaviour he displayed in his early days.

Author:	The Big Bad Wolf [ Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:04 pm ]
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They were both fun people. ^^ I enjoyed it, and it's sad if they're both gone. However it seemed they both took what someone says on a forum too personally which never should be done. You shouldn't even take what people say in real life seriously or personally. It's a matter of keeping a sane mind. Back to the point; both had much to contribute, and if they are both gone, it's a shame. However; they should be able to take some resistance, at least since they both have the knowledge they seem to have, within NLP, which should enable them to have all the resources they need to deal with it... Cheers

Author:	R.G. [ Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:47 pm ]
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Haha. Thanks for the messages everyone. This is an internet forum, so I don't feel any need to be 'committed' to it as such, now that I no longer serve a dedicated thread. The moment it begins to add negativity into my life, i'm out, just like I blow out a lot of the girls I sarge if they become leeches. Because I play the game in real life, the only time I'm online is to help, learn or write FR/LR's. I personally don't dig the people who game online but hey each unto his own. Nevertheless it would be immature of me to leave on such trival circumstances. I am very busy this month so will only be posting sparsely, if at all. I've bought a camcorder though so when I'm back I will hopefully give you guys some in-field footage of a few techniques, mainly NLP and some kino tactics like my somewhat infamous 'slap'. I'm not promising anything though because I'm still not warming to having my face recognised online, as it could jepoardize future careers which may be very public careers. PM me if anyone can give me advice on this. There are probably other people who are well versed in NLP as well on this forum or milling about. So you can learn from them in the meantime. Until ~ February; happy sarging fellas =) Rafiel.

Author:	fenderhead [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:29 am ]
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Quote: The reason the NLP section has died down is because people don't understand NLP. The vast majority of people who show up in here ask a variation of the questions "HEYCAN U TEACH ME NLP? LOLZ" , "dUdE, where cAn i learn NLPz? k thx bye", or even more common "yOz canz youz teachez mez thez Octoberz manz man?" There are some of us who actually study NLP and understand it quite well. The feud between the two who have left the forum goes beyond what you see in the threads. It's not my place to go into detail though. All I can say is I stand by the decision made by the staff of this forum. As for RussianBear, he was NOT always as laid back as he makes himself out to be. While it is true that he was a valuable forum member for the majority of his stay, it wasn't always the case. I got into a couple heated arguments with him, after which he became a productive, valuable forum member. The end of his membership here was quite possibly a repeat of the behaviour he displayed in his early days. Links? I've been lurking for a while and I know him well and I cannot recall such things. Moreover, the only thing the man did was answer someone's question then took a hell of a beating in private messages. If you look at the one message he posted from Rafiel, seems that Rafiel is pretty insecure. The guy writes stuff like :"just like I blow out a lot of the girls I sarge if they become leeches", which in no way captures the essence of neurolinguistic programming, and you take his side? Really? There are a lot of posts here from RB where he goes out of his way to help others and to assist in their understanding of NLP. Sad you don't like that around here.

Author:	Plethora [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:49 am ]
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Quote: Links? I've been lurking for a while and I know him well and I cannot recall such things. Moreover, the only thing the man did was answer someone's question then took a hell of a beating in private messages. If you look at the one message he posted from Rafiel, seems that Rafiel is pretty insecure. Quote: Only cuz you're a fucking idiot: Entry Word: traditional Function: adjective Text: 1 based on customs usually handed down from a previous generation Synonymsclassical, conventional, customary 2 tending to favor established ideas, conditions, or institutions— see conservative 1 As concerns your comments on speed seduction, you only further your misunderstanding of SS and it continues to surprise me that Chief gave you a sticky to answer SS and NLP questions. Quote: Who the fuck is this guy and why is he so full of himself? Look at this private message i received: "Excuse me, but if you haven't noticed the "Ask Rafiel thread" is "Ask Rafiel", not "Ask RussianBear". I have already referred you to the moderators for swearing/flaming, and if you continue to infringe on my boundaries I will push further. If you wish to help members who have posted in my thread, please create a new thread from it. Thank you. If you have something against me then I apologise, but I am who I am and I can't change that. Sorry." Dude, if you feel threatened by me, that is your problem. People here appreciate help, no matter who it comes from. That's the point, not feeding your ego. Grow up. (After blatantly hijacking Rafiel's sticky thread, multiple times.) Quote: For those of you who haven't read the "Ask Rafiel" thread, the guy feels threatened because I offer help to people with questions. Apparently he feels this is a dick swinging contest or something as opposed to a place where guys can come for help, ask questions in a way that allows a variety of people to gie input. Quote: Got this nice message from Chief: "This is an official warning for your violation of forum rule #8. You hijacked a thread intended for a different purpose than for the direction in which you are steering it. Helping others is important, but so is doing so in an organized fashion for a forum environment. This is also an additional warning for your violation of forum rule #2. If you cannot cease flaming, further action will be taken immediately. If we discover that this has been a repeat offense from a second account (if you broke the rules on an older, banned account), your IP address will be banned from our server and you will not be able to return to our forum community." Take your warning and shove it up your ass. I hijacked a thread? No, I answered a poster's question and Mr. Gamble seemed to have a problem with me helping someone. If helping others further themselves in the game, then this forum is seriously in peril. I cannot flame. So, what your saying is it's cool for others to attack me, but I cannot respond. Hypocrite. On the front page alone, he has caused 3 threads and a really helpful 'ask Rafiel thread' to die from flaming (the only other locked threads in this section that I can find are ones that deal with OMS). I guess he was found to be a repeat offender, because Chief kicked him out. Enough said. Move on, bye bye RB.

Author:	Chief [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:58 am ]
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Quote: regardless of who was right and who was wrong, which I dont really care about, when an individual joins the forum and their first and only post is to defend someone who was banned recently I cant help but be a wee bit suspicious. Even more suspicious when they have the exact same IP addresses which is only possible if they're from the exact same computer. If he breaks any rules on his new account his IP shall be banned and will not be able to return under any name.

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Author:	The Big Bad Wolf [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:25 pm ]
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apparently they're both here still. oh, the joy. ^^ Russianhead, don't blow it by too blatantly defending yourself. Remember the best part about the past; that it's over. Contribute or don't, but don't blow it for those who do. Counterproductive behavior never won any hearts, or minds. Uhm, and, did this topic just become redundant since they both reappeared ?