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| Author: | brand79 [ Sat May 31, 2008 4:39 am ] |
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How do I know any of this stuff really works? Has anyone on here actually used Ross jeffries stuff and had consistent success. Also I heard ross jeffries on a youtube interview who says the lie that all these gurus are telling is that women respond to social value(social status). According to him its about energy, and capturing the imagination of a woman. |
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| Author: | djay [ Sat May 31, 2008 9:51 am ] |
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all goes hand in hand and different bits apply to different situations as my experience tells me |
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| Author: | brand79 [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:40 am ] |
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what do you mean all goes hand in hand |
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| Author: | com.solo [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:00 pm ] |
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If I may throw in my meager two cents. I agree with him, 'energy' (or vibe, or spirit, whatever you want to call it) is all that matters, technically. However, humans are programmed with some degree of social awareness, thus, no matter how good a player, a college kid making $20k will never be able to create a suitable energy between himself and Paris Hilton, because theirs way too many human instincts that inhibit such a relationship. |
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| Author: | russianbear [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:49 pm ] |
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I am by no means an expert, however, in my quest to become a PUA I have started with speed seduction. I would highly recommend purchasing Dave Riker's materials. |
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| Author: | vash [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:40 pm ] |
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nlp works!!!! but not alone in my experence, you need to use it to accent other parts of your game, anchor when your at the height of your c/f or routine where there coming on to you |
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| Author: | Starfox [ Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:00 am ] |
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I believe it works best when you have built enough comfort and the women is compliant. |
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| Author: | Senpai [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:43 am ] |
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In order for it to really work you have to dedicate and focus yourself to learning it... it takes a LONG time. And what may not be so good is you aren't acquiring any actual social skills or technically PUA skills, you are just learning patterns to manipulate people. That being said I think looking into Ross Jeffries' work on NLP is very useful because at the least it will teach you how to frame conversations and use some statements and prefaces that will flip attraction switches in females. Alot of this stuff is used in sales as well, in one of my old jobs I found it rather humorous how the stuff they told us to say to customers was pure NLP though nobody in the office was intentionally aware of that term or its design. |
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