PUA Forum :: ANCHORING for the first time....need some advice

Here's what you're doing wrong. First off, it's unconscious association, not conscious association. this means that if you tell someone, their mind is split. They have the sensation and then they get touched, it stops them from associating the touch with the mental stimulation, so you break the state by eliciting it.

It's about association, it's a structure of thinking and reacting that works by constant verification.

It takes awhile to create an anchor. It's conditioning the mind. Yeah, some poor NLP practitioners try to teach that you can create an anchor in someone instantly. And there are times when you can plant a seed of thought and put it into one simple thing. Extreme emotional responses can be anchored instantly. But, you're not creating such extreme emotional responses. You're creating quite light ones in fact.

Author:	ALEAN [ Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:27 pm ]
Post subject:	ANCHORING for the first time....need some advice
Hi, I am new to NLP and trying to learn anchoring and need some advice. . I tried to anchor happiness by asking one of my friends to remember a past time when she laughed the most in her entire life..when i noticed change on her face, then i pressed her knee to anchor. I did this two times(with breaking state each time) and it was an intense state but i noticed no change when i fired the anchor. I also tried to anchor lemon taste by touching back of the arm of an another friend. I did this 4 times continuously but she said that she did not feel lemon taste when i fired the anchor. . Can you guys please give some idea how can i test anchoring first time on my friends or family members?(either covertly or overtly) And which state or feeling should me anchor for the first time which can easily be noticed on firing the anchor? Please tell something about your own personal experience. Thanks in advance.

Author:	Rechard Bandler [ Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: ANCHORING for the first time....need some advice
No one can anchor any thing. Anchoring is just rubbish.

Author:	Raiden2k2 [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:35 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: ANCHORING for the first time....need some advice
Anchoring is pavlovian conditioning, it's used in advertising... here Give Me A Break, Give Me A Break (what's the first thing that you think about when you hear Give Me A Break). Of course you can anchor. First off, it's about eliciting a state, not just a sensation. It takes some vivification, tonality, and more. I've used anchoring a lot, for a smoker, every time they picked up a cigarette, it tasted like vomit. It's not difficult at all. Here's what you're doing wrong. First off, it's unconscious association, not conscious association. this means that if you tell someone, their mind is split. They have the sensation and then they get touched, it stops them from associating the touch with the mental stimulation, so you break the state by eliciting it. It's about association, it's a structure of thinking and reacting that works by constant verification. I've put an anchor on someone more than a dozen times in a conversation. During hypnosis, I put an anchor more than two dozen times around the same sensation and elicited emotion. It takes awhile to create an anchor. It's conditioning the mind. Yeah, some poor NLP practitioners try to teach that you can create an anchor in someone instantly. And there are times when you can plant a seed of thought and put it into one simple thing. Extreme emotional responses can be anchored instantly. But, you're not creating such extreme emotional responses. You're creating quite light ones in fact.

Author:	ALEAN [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:50 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: ANCHORING for the first time....need some advice
Quote: Here's what you're doing wrong. First off, it's unconscious association, not conscious association. this means that if you tell someone, their mind is split. They have the sensation and then they get touched, it stops them from associating the touch with the mental stimulation, so you break the state by eliciting it. It's about association, it's a structure of thinking and reacting that works by constant verification. It takes awhile to create an anchor. It's conditioning the mind. Yeah, some poor NLP practitioners try to teach that you can create an anchor in someone instantly. And there are times when you can plant a seed of thought and put it into one simple thing. Extreme emotional responses can be anchored instantly. But, you're not creating such extreme emotional responses. You're creating quite light ones in fact. . Thanks Raiden for the reply.. ..if i understood right, i should anchor "covertly" so that there shouldn't be any involvement of her consciousness, and so that it becomes a complete unconscious association. I will try it again on some other subjects with some extreme emotional responses and with more repeatitions. i will come back with whatever new result i get. Thanks again for the help. : )

Author:	schwarz [ Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:04 am ]
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@Raiden I was not supposed to think of KitKat, right? It took me a while to realise why I was thinking of that, until I remembered "Have a Break, Have a KitKat". Powerful stuff, just by the words 'break' and 'commercial'. @Alean I have yet to see results of my anchors on others, though in fairness, I have not tried that much. I do have two examples of anchoring on myself. I don't agree with Raiden that anchors can only be unconscious. The first ...is more of a life hack. Any time I'm in a long conversation and there are multiple points I wish to respond to or elaborate on, I place physical anchors with my fingers on myself (if I want to remember it for long), or the table or anything close (if I can to leave it at the location) bound to the idea point I want to make. In the monts that I've been using this I haven't had a single "Shit, I forgot what I wanted to say" moment and I can actually recall numbers of them. I take the fact that making a gesture can bring thoughts back to mind as a proof of concept for 'anchoring'. Of course, these are not really emotions but all are really 'states' of the mind. --- Now imagine you are trying with this girl and you brought her into her strong happy state. Now you grab the back of her arm and say: "I can actually feel your happiness right now." As a way to make her aware of the anchor implicitly. Or add "We will be reminded of this every time I touch you here." to do it explicitly. Both place the emphasis on the anchor and the state. Then some time else you can just grab her arm again and say "You feel so great" To make her laugh or smile because you think her skin feels so nice AND send a subliminal message AND trigger the anchor. Or do that explicitly; grab her arm and say "I just remembered how we feel your happiness when I hold your arm." --- The second ...started out when I was pretty baked on some white widow, ie. in the middle of extreme state. I was fed up with the slavery to stupid games on mobile (Ruzzle) and scrolling down Facebook/9gag. I used that opportunity to anchor a defense mechanism. I stirred up a fear emotion for these specific things. I imagined them infecting my mind and corrupting my thoughts (while being stoned; risky practice). Then I chose to bind that fear to the color yellow, so that any time I would see something yellow, I would reiterate this fear and amplify the mechanism. The cool thing is that it actually had the desired effect. The pieces feel in place when I got sober and figured the startup screen of Ruzzle is bright yellow. But also eating bananas, songs by coldplay, emoticons, that book on the shelve all triggered the defense mechanism perfectly and I didn't play the game since. I also began to find Facebook kind of a scary place. The moments that I did have to check my messages I would rather finish off quickly and gtfo. Now I actually believe this mechanism has nested itself very deep in my unconsciousness. Over a year the effect has faded and I have fallen back into old patterns. Today I spent an entire day doing nothing but the scrolling down silly sites and at the end of it I found myself very unhappy. So I went to see this forum, straight to the NLP section and next thing I know I'm writing down this mechanism to reignite it. Being extremely explicit about it helped, not only to myself but also some others helped. Of course, there was no real option of unconscious association here, as it is hard to scheme out 'mind tricks' on yourself that way. Being so aware did made me think about it a lot. You should see every thought of an anchor as another trigger. Perhaps if you want to explore anchoring, you could try to see the effect of anchors on yourself and understand what they mean practically. I will pick up this art of mindsculpting again to banish my recurring patterns, but I'll also try to get in some practice on females and will report any interesting finds. Geez, this turned out longer than expected.

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Author:	puaisnotacrime [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:10 am ]
Post subject:	Re: ANCHORING for the first time....need some advice
Quote: Hi, Can you guys please give some idea how can i test anchoring first time on my friends or family members?(either covertly or overtly) don't use nlp on family members, in any context. I would never use any games or nlp or anything like that outside of picking up a girl you are interested in. Having an edge with a girl dressed scantily at a bar is one thing. Messing with people's minds and mesmerizing and witchcraft is another thing. NLP is essentially witchcraft.

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