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| Author: | Stephen B. [ Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | A question on pattern |
So, I am not intending to ask for instructional discussion that might be against the forum rules - but I hope this form of question is appropriate. I can't find the answer anywhere. So, to put it this way. The Door pattern. Just theoretically, do you think it would be even possible to perform it BEFORE the actual intercourse? I want to mention, that my raison d'etre for asking this is NOT to act in immoral way - 'leaving her worse than found her', she is my exclusive GF for few months, I do care about her. If I have to justify myself for this question, I'll openly say that I'm into extreme forms of traditional black magic. Ergo, If I'd like to use something destructive or 'forbidden', I'd find a way by other means, not simplistic idea that if she decides to do some crazy shit, she should better be imagining me walking out of her life as a consequence. We didn't have sex yet, but its too much to explain here, and to emphasize - I know all about breaking LMR concept, so I seek no suggestions on that matter, not asking about getting to sex. Also, not anything on 'being alpha'. My choice is to discuss NLP. She must get the hint, must be aware, must concern, that I can walk away. Disappear over night. If she provokes it, or does something behind the scene. In the same way, that I pretty much understand how she might plot, get away with certain behaviours, cheat and so on. In my experience with women, they tend to make a charade, fall to temptations and do irreversible damage, but then they either hide it away OR give you shitty step-by-step hints which will mindfuck you. While my tactic is to just be gone in matter of seconds if things go beyond repair by standards of our relationship. There is no 'talk about this' with her. It would be stupid and awkawrd. You could correctly argue that whole RS, dating, or pick-up is based on subtle communication, thats where NLP comes into play. Bottom line: is it possible to use pattern ala The Door, before the intercourse? I get the reasoning that after the intercourse, woman is most 'vulnerable', receptive, but until it comes to that, can you possibly use anything effective? |
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| Author: | Periphery [ Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A question on pattern |
In my opinion, you're bullshitting yourself if you think what you're suggesting isn't an attempt to exert control over your so-called girlfriend. Take some advice from a guy who's been seriously engaged in magick for a long, long time: You don't know what you're playing around with here, I can 'see' what you're doing and it will backfire on you. |
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| Author: | ChitownMaverick [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A question on pattern |
She's been tricking you into dating her without sex for three months...tricked you that she's exclusive with you, despite the fact that you haven't even been together...and now you're trying to ensure that all the nothing she's given you doesn't suddenly go away? Nothing to do with morals, just a really poor understanding of how dating dynamics work. Relationships START at sex, start WITH SEX. Nothing before that is any real kind of relationship, despite what she's been telling you. You want her to imagine you walking out of her life? THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE SO. No pattern needed. |
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| Author: | Stephen B. [ Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A question on pattern |
Quote: She's been tricking you into dating her without sex for three months...tricked you that she's exclusive with you, despite the fact that you haven't even been together...and now you're trying to ensure that all the nothing she's given you doesn't suddenly go away?
Things changed, and that part is solved, but I brought something completely else to discussion, I didn't ask you to give me fucking opinion on relationships and sex. Also, where did you get three months? Its not even close to full blown three months. The circumstances around this, and the magnitude of how we start commitment is way off topic here. Nothing to do with morals, just a really poor understanding of how dating dynamics work. Relationships START at sex, start WITH SEX. Nothing before that is any real kind of relationship, despite what she's been telling you. Quote:
You want her to imagine you walking out of her life?
Now that we're sharing advices easily, I suggest you read questions properly within the context, read and think, before playing with words. What a crap. Pure subjective crap, and plain rude at that.THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE SO. No pattern needed. Anyway, nothing to find here anymore, I solved my case, and decided how to proceed with routine if need arises. |
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| Author: | Dr. Spargenator [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: A question on pattern |
Ya. I think it is possible to use the door before sex. You may have to fractionate a couple more times, and really emphasize the pain and loss to get her into state. But ya, I think u could do it. You would have to be making out, or fingering or something tho. And btw, I understand where ur coming from that u guys haven't had sex yet. It's totally ok. But you do wanna do that whenever you feel like she's comfortable. And be sexual with her, don't be afraid. Flirt with her. |
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