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| Author: | PUA-InTraining [ Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Using NLP as an opener or routine? |
I started reading John Seymour's book on NLP, and its really quite amazing! I am curious what you guys think about using NLP as an opener, or as a routine? What I've done with a few women is asked, "Want to try a science experiment? It's called NLP". Women: "Ok" "I want you to remember the last vacation you went on. Really think about it for a minute." Then I'll watch which direction their eyes move. "Ok. Your eyes moved to the top of the head, which probably means you are a visual learner; you remember things in pictures. If you had looked to the side, you remember things in the sounds you hear, or down means memory with touch and feelings." If they say "yeah but I was actually thinking of the feelings," then you can just tell them that people have preferred memory systems and lead systems, and that although you may recall your memory one way, the rest of the memory is most likely in your preferred format. They almost always say, "actually, yeah I think you're right now that you mention it. The rest of my memory is in format X" I've found that once I've built a little rapport up, this is amazing at capturing their interest. They want to know more about this subject. So what do I do next? Is this a good time for the "Sorry, I'm not an entertainer" line? I just don't know exactly where to go from here. I have difficulty finding a common thread out of this. What I would really like to do is find some way to get them very attracted to me, like "Think of the person you are most attracted to. Visualize/feel/hear them in your head (depending on their preferred learning system). Think of that attraction as a color, and imagine it flowing throughout your body. Now it is just an energy, and I am going to use my hand to paint you with energy" etc. I feel like I could just say something here like "now you are attracted to me", but what should I actually say? Is this even ethical? It seems like such a shortcut through all of the bullshit, but it seems like it could work. One of the things Ross Jeffries talks about is anchoring to a condiment packet, which is a great idea too, but not instant. I feel like this could work for threesomes too (open a set, get the "energy" flowing through each others bodies, etc...) I also don't want to do anything that will harm the girl, because I am new at this and I realize how powerful it can be, even though I don't know much about it yet. Is there any problem with being direct about NLP? Do I not use the words "NLP?" I don't want to start a thing where everyone becomes an "expert" in NLP and now the idea is saturated and dead. |
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| Author: | virtuapua [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Using NLP as an opener or routine? |
I actually find that talking about NLP really works well as it is A different subject to talk about. It really works well on girl who are in to any form of psychology new age or that kind of thing. |
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| Author: | ChitownMaverick [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Using NLP as an opener or routine? |
Yes, and it works. |
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| Author: | Evan White [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Using NLP as an opener or routine? |
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| Author: | garrettb17 [ Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Using NLP as an opener or routine? |
Fantastic work man. Yeah from my experience it is best to make it about the woman in the beginning. Showing how what you are sharing is interesting and can benefit them. I know what you are saying with the "entertainer frame". What I would suggest is changing the frame. It's not "This is cool, I am impressing you, I have all the time in the world, etc." but rather "you know what I find really fascinating, also challenging the girl like: I'm not sure you will get this but..." Usually she will then want to prove that she can understand it and will prove herself to you. Also with the truly powerful NLP, you want to start thinking more along the lines of, "What emotional states should she be in, where she is most likely to go with the new direction (nude erection lol couldn't help it) you want. Examples: fascination, intrigue, lust, attraction, urgency. From talking about NLP you could segue into, "Yes they teach that even processes such as love and attraction take place in a certain sequence. One of the books I was reading said that attraction happens usually when you (begin describing in detail the body sensations she would feel in that state, thus creating that state in her, also as you are doing this, you want to link it to yourself. This can be done with self points, or something called punctuational ambiguities: with me, to me, etc.) see someone you really like, and as you are talking to this person (point subtlety to yourself) that you can begin to feel a certain excitement beginning to grow, now, with me, as I see it..." Hope this helps and keep up the fantastic work 
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