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Author:  freshboi202 [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Nlp routines that inspires extreme loyalty at all times?
Is there any ways to inspire extreme loyalty.. Maybe any patterns that even if someone used a ross jeffries bf destroyer would fail? Something that would keep me on her mind unable to be "wiped away, forgotten, seem unimportant"... Something that would automatically put all guys even mpua's in the friend zone?
Author:  Energetica [ Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:07 pm ]
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Is there any ways to inspire extreme loyalty.. Maybe any patterns that even if someone used a ross jeffries bf destroyer would fail? Something that would keep me on her mind unable to be "wiped away, forgotten, seem unimportant"... Something that would automatically put all guys even mpua's in the friend zone?
If you have an extreme emotional connection with her she'll be loyal.

- Energetica
Author:  clearspeak [ Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:08 am ]
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I bet there are some political leaders and dictators who wish such a pattern did exist :) But I don't think any pattern can force someone to be loyal to such an extreme. Hypnotists are pretty clear that people will rarely go against strongly held values even under hypnosis.

So in order to really gain loyalty you are going to have to earn it. NLP can ease the way a bit. But I can't imagine a pattern is going to make someone loyal to you in the long run.
Author:  Asmodai [ Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:22 am ]
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Author:  TheSeagull [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:02 pm ]
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Be careful because i guarantee that you do NOT want this kind of attention!
googled it.. it seems pretty strong material.. how ethical is it to run this routine on your own girlfriend?
Author:  TheSeagull [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:19 pm ]
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if lets say you found out your gf was screwing your buddy or something like that. Revenge is sweet (and immature) :)
revenge is sweet, very much so. but that is not the case. I have found out evidence of exactly the contrary (loyal honest and affectionate girlfriend)
I would use the pattern to make sure she sticks around and does not return to indecisive mode and maybe even to her original line of thought that she needs to be with some random nice Jewish guy instead of with me. basically securing our commitment.
Author:  TheSeagull [ Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:42 pm ]
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Without being nit-picky i just need to ask you, is she being influenced by others around her to enter back into the indecisive and jewish-wanting mode?
to the best of my knowledge no. as far as I know, the only person who tried to influence her away from me (a past hookup) has been rejected and never contacted again.
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Since she already is hooked to you, i would definetly suggest you firstly run a few different patterns in which you anchor immense pleasure in her to yourself. When you have successfully achieved this, proceed with the previously mentioned pattern and anchor (immense) grief to her being without you. The door is an excellent tool for this even though it might be a bit over the top. Remember, with power comes responsibility.
any hints on such positive patterns? I tried the one in which I ask her about the color of her emotions, but she realized she was being gamed and broke it off. :cry:
I feel she knows it's good to be around me. I want to make sure she knows it's bad not to be around me.
Author:  Kubrik's [ Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:47 pm ]
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Be careful because i guarantee that you do NOT want this kind of attention!
googled it.. it seems pretty strong material.. how ethical is it to run this routine on your own girlfriend?
it's totally un-ethical, I'm not against most "forbidden paterns", but "the door" is cruel! You are anchoring feelings such as fear and paranoia with the action of not being with you, you are making her dependent. Dude, what if you leave her some day? You are destroying her!
I would prefer to anchorage very strong positive feelings with you, if these feelings are sufficiently strong she will be loyal, as you are making her happy in a way that nobody can, she don't want to lose you.
Author:  TheSeagull [ Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:30 pm ]
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I tried the door last night. I delivered a milder version without the long pauses, and without making an explicit reference to a just-happened tragedy. Plus, it is my second attempt at NLP, so I am sure I made a bunch of mistakes. (probably, if I were very good at this, I would not deliver such a strong pattern)

Still, she had watery eyes all through the conversation, in spite of her attempts to rationalize the potential loss (I would still have memories, I could end up in another relationship, ...). When I shut the door, she ended up crying. I consoled her, told her to stop worrying about the door, and that I would be there to take care of her because I love her. I could definitely tell she was scared and searched my hugs for reassurance. This morning she again told me "no more doors - that was weird". "Yeah, honey, don't worry. The door is open and we are here"

So much for my delivery of the door.
Author:  TheSeagull [ Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:35 pm ]
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just hope you didnt break it with the reassurances later on but i highly doubt that.

Great Job! I take my hat off for you sir :D
I had to reassure her.. she was crying and shaken.. I could not leave her broken all night long.. she is my GF after all. this morning when we woke up she asked me not to talk of the door again, so I guess something is stuck into her..

for a second try, I was pretty surprised at the result.. and slightly guilty that I caused that... I saw why the pattern is "forbidden".
Author:  Kubrik's [ Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:39 pm ]
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googled it.. it seems pretty strong material.. how ethical is it to run this routine on your own girlfriend?
it's totally un-ethical, I'm not against most "forbidden paterns", but "the door" is cruel! You are anchoring feelings such as fear and paranoia with the action of not being with you, you are making her dependent. Dude, what if you leave her some day? You are destroying her!
I would prefer to anchorage very strong positive feelings with you, if these feelings are sufficiently strong she will be loyal, as you are making her happy in a way that nobody can, she don't want to lose you.
Patterns like the OMS and The Door are a necessary evil in todays society when women have this huge and unfair advantage over men (regular AFCs) and demand so much for relatively little in return.

I used to think just like you not so long ago but when you look around you and see how good looking guys, who actually do have something to offer, get shot down constantly, i think it's time for a tiny bit of payback sometimes.

:D **The information above is intended for educational purposes only** :D
I agree, but I personally prefer a happy and equilibrate girlfriend and not a paranoic girl that can't separate from you. Only an opinion :)
Author:  TheSeagull [ Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:22 pm ]
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just had this text convo with J:


Seagull:
had lunch with Italian friends.. one of them was saying how he went to bed late last night and was woken up at 5am by an email from his boss (related to the evenings+weekends working I was telling you last evening)... made me very grateful about the pleasant start of the day you and I had ;)
J:
Was just thinking about you glad you sent me a text!
Seagull:
good thoughts I assume :P was thinking about you too.. and really glad to have started the morning with you in such a good way!
J:
Yes absolutely baby! Me too! And remember, the door is open!

I guess she is still thinking about it. I will wait a few minutes and then reply "yeah. will talk to you later honey :)"

EDIT: she sent a pic of a sunset. I asked "romantic sunset?" and she replied:
"Yes just a reminder the door is open. The whole door closing thing scared me "

my reply: "yeah open. will talk to you later honey :)"
Author:  TheSeagull [ Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:16 pm ]
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Holy shit, the door is rooted pretty deep there huh? I sense you being a happy man now? :) Hope ull handle this with care though!
I hope she doesn't get so attached to the door that she forgets she should be attached to me :lol:
and of course, that she doesn't freak out every other second that I am gonna disappear from her life.. I have no plans to do that
Author:  Raiden2k2 [ Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:30 pm ]
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Remember the old saying, "Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it." The Door is a dark and forbidden pattern for a reason, it truly attacks the mind of your partner, it's been known to create stalkers, obsessives, and the absolute loyalty that you wished and craved for.
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