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Author:  Khrem [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:34 am ]
Post subject:  Hard time mirroing breathing patterns
Let's try this again on this section. Does anyone here have tips for how to mirror someone's breathing patterns?
I would like to know how to make better emotional connections with people I talk to on a daily basis (not just girls). I can't seem to be able to consciously pick up people's breathing patterns. It just seems so subtle...
Author:  Dr. Spargenator [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:16 pm ]
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when their chest rises that means their breathing in. and when it shrinks that means theyre breathing out. I usually am sitting right by the person that im mirroring. and what i do is i see them out of the corner of my eye, and I match their body posture, and I learn their breathing pattern by watching when their chest expands and shrinks out of the corner of my eye, and I match their breathing pattern. but its going to take more than just matching breathing and posture to create rapport. You have to actually talk to them, and take the same interests as they do and stuff.
Author:  Khrem [ Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:33 pm ]
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Thanks Doc. Yes, I do realize there's more to just breathing. I like to think of this as the icing on the cake, taking my rapport building skills up one more step.

One more question: What if they are moving (even slightly) or talking? I find it hard to notice their breathings in such cases. Is this just something that needs a lot of practice or is it not even important?
Author:  elitehypnosis [ Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:23 pm ]
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mirroring aften becomes more like mimickry so be careful
Author:  AFC AzA [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:47 am ]
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Yeah, once I tried to mirror peoples breathing pattern, but its just sooo hard ! Even I who trying to copy their breathing I couldn't see it clear and that moment I thought how the hell will they realize ? seriously are they gonna saw us and think to themselves "wow hes breathing just like me, and at the same time" ????

im not sure.
Author:  Entourages [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:12 am ]
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I sometimes realize flaring of the nose indicates breathing. Big = In Not Big = out that is if they breathe through there nose, even if breathing through the mouth it is harder to identify but still occurs try it yourself...

Since you are staring at their face maybe you can just quickly glance, do it on some HB1-5 just for practice on recognizing this. Then youll have sprinkles on your icing :P
Author:  marty12345 [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:43 pm ]
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Breathing is an unconscious process.

So why try to match someone's breathing consciously?

The other person is breathing the way they are breathing because of the state they happen to be in at that time.

So you've got two choices:

1) Bring yourself into the same state as them.

2) Use your state to invite them into the state you're in.
Author:  AFC AzA [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:32 pm ]
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So lets say breathing at the same moment, how much rapport it will get ? i know this question sounds s2pid but scale 1-100... (i thought 1-10 is too less)
Author:  Raiden2k2 [ Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:10 pm ]
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So lets say breathing at the same moment, how much rapport it will get ? i know this question sounds s2pid but scale 1-100... (i thought 1-10 is too less)
The number one time people breathe in syncronicity is while having sex. You are mirroring one thing that is mirrored in some of the most extreme situations of connectiveness. Also, you'll naturally mirror breathing, in the those quiet moments where you just stare at someone you've been in an intimate communication with.
Author:  AFC AzA [ Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:58 am ]
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Ohhh I think you got point Raiden2k2.... gotta game up. :o
Author:  Pinocchio [ Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:17 pm ]
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So lets say breathing at the same moment, how much rapport it will get ? i know this question sounds s2pid but scale 1-100... (i thought 1-10 is too less)
The number one time people breathe in syncronicity is while having sex. You are mirroring one thing that is mirrored in some of the most extreme situations of connectiveness. Also, you'll naturally mirror breathing, in the those quiet moments where you just stare at someone you've been in an intimate communication with.
I like that, it's very true. Mirroring is something I only do when it happens naturally. Usually that kind of matching is inappropriate for the situation. Being in sync like that would get me nowhere. My style of game requires me to be dominant, leading. A masculine force to sweep her femininity off it's feet. I don't want to be on her level, I wanna be above (this kind of dominant energy is not the same as thinking I'm better than her, or even a comparison with her, it's just my own personal power).

This vibe has it's own qualification built into it. It's not about matching her, it's about being somebody that she wants to match with. These little tools are, at best, unnecessary, and at worst, inappropriate. I've no problem with learning skills like this, just to allow it to happen naturally, that bit easier, but I really don't think there's many people out there that have gone through the hundreds of more useful options that they can justify these little nuts and bolts.
Author:  marty12345 [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:04 pm ]
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The number one time people breathe in syncronicity is while having sex.
It's one time when it happens not the number one time. It also happens when friends meet on a bus and have a chat.

Breathing at the same rate as someone does not automatically create anything sexual between people. It just generates a rapport between people.
Author:  Raiden2k2 [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:41 pm ]
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The number one time people breathe in syncronicity is while having sex.
It's one time when it happens not the number one time. It also happens when friends meet on a bus and have a chat.

Breathing at the same rate as someone does not automatically create anything sexual between people. It just generates a rapport between people.
It is the number one time, because it happens almost every time, and happens completely unconsciously. Friends meeting doesn't always lead to syncroncity. Pupil dilation occurs during sex all the time, you can also utilize it by dimming the lights for an office presentation, nothing erotic there, but they'll feel more attracted to it.

Number One simply means the time it happens the most frequently, and the most powerfully, without any conscious awareness, (which is interesting since people are usually breathing heavily).
Author:  permisQus [ Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:19 am ]
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Yes I have played around with this to varying degrees and yes, it seems as though it has to come naturally. Everything just lines up if your on the same sort of level. Weather it is your frame or hers that wins out in the end. I have not been able to fake this in most situations.

The one place I have seen it consistantly work is sex. If I am with a girl and she is taking forever to cum I can speed my breathing (usually near her ear) up synthetically which speeds hers up and she is able to cum.

Try it out, let me know what you think.
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