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| Author: | Girlock [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:58 pm ] |
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Just starting my day game here's a little taste.. She seemed slightly interested but she was married with a child so I ejected. All feedback is welcome [youtube]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/JcI6PuQWuPo&hl ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/JcI6PuQWuPo&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/youtube] |
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| Author: | Cowboy_09 [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:15 am ] |
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Couldnt really hear what you were saying bro but your confident was good and she seemed interested and going with vibe. It just shows you how easily people open up , and you have so much more of an advantage in the daytime without music or their hair extenstions and 6 inch heels. |
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| Author: | PUA_CHRIS [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:47 am ] |
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Nice but I have a question, did you leave for moral reasons or because you were just shell shocked from hearing she was in a relationship? |
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| Author: | Girlock [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:38 am ] |
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Quote: Nice but I have a question, did you leave for moral reasons or because you were just shell shocked from hearing she was in a relationship?
Good question. I was a little shell shocked because she wasn't wearing a ring. But it also was for moral reasons. I would feel too bad if I ruined a relationship.
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| Author: | l oasis l [ Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:51 pm ] |
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nice, definitely room to improve on, but good voice tone and body language in general. I like how you opened her while you were still walking from a distance, that is probably the best way to open, good job. Even if you didnt use your line afterward, it would have gone at least just as well. Body language: What would work better is if you picked up a random item from the shelf [facing towards shelf] and turn your head while talking, and occasionally look back at the item. when she says something you like, example, when she asked what your doing later (ioi) turn towards her, rewarding her for her response. Conversation: you have to go either direct or indirect, you cant skip from one to the other, unless you start with an indirect statement and escalate towards direct. Otherwise it seems insincere and she knows what your up to. I love direct for day game, it really hits the girl hard and not matter how it goes, shes always impressed with you confidence. Seriously, how often does that happen to her? You: where can i shop for phone numbers her: haha whos phone numbers? you: lol i dunno what you could have said there is " yours silly" (direct) or "girls in uniform" (passive direct) "sexy girls" (shed be unsure if your complimenting her or negging her) " she really set you up there for some comedy gold. anything really, maybe awww you blew it, i have a strict 10 second policy, i only take numbers if the girl throws hers at me right off the bat. I don't like teases, you're not a tease are you? (you're qualifying her at that point, seeing if she fits into YOUR standards) "Did i make you blush" great line, I'm making a mental note on that one, whatsa great is that shes likely to blush after you ask her that. You asked a lot of questions. I did this a lot when i first started day game, and it wasn't until my wingman pointed it out that I started to work on that. As long as you give her eye contact with a sly smile, you can say virtually anything and it will always come out better than a question. Don't react verbally to anything she says, I noticed after she said something you'd respond with "yeah?" "no?" "haha really?" I noticed she re-initiated the conversation once, definitely the an ioi, and then she did it again later on when she asked what your doing later. HUGE ioi man. you answered with I dunno, I'll probably go out. You were subconsciously trying to leave a window open for her to say oh nice we should do something. But that NEVER happens. Girls who are attracted to you will often leave similar windows open in hopes that you capitalize on it. here are two options after she asks you a question like that: a)open up your language and answer with whatever plans you have, something like my friends having a birthday party at Xclub/his place or going out with some friends. anything social and exiting works here. And at that point say i've gotta go my buddy's wating outside, but you know what, fell free to come by to Xclub, its definitely gonna be a good time. here, ill give you my number so you can find me. [number exchange] OR b)don't open your body language, slowly turn your head towards her raise an eyebrow, and repeat what she said withe emphasis "what. am . EYYYEE. doing. later? woah there, slow down cowgirl, im not THAT easy. " definitely smile during this . continue with some rant that youre not just some piece of meat for her to relieve herself after a day of stacking boxes." so all that was in a hugely joking sarcastic tone. turn towards her take your smile off stare at her, lower your voice, speed it up. "but seriously im doing this and this and this and then maybe this, but this is also happening, feel free to tag along [take a breath, pull out your phone] number? (this should also come off as a joke, i like to pull this kinda stuff off it adds nice contrast) Keep the videos coming, definitely a good way to speed up the learning process, plus its fun I like how close the camera man was, although that can come off as a little awkward when there isnt a crowd, try filming from further, but have a microphone on you, and then just merge them together in editing software. the audio quality is generally more important then vid quality Sorry if I came off a little harsh in this comment, i was aiming for constructive criticism. you really did do a good job and i guarantee you'll improve your game at an exponential rate if you keep opening like this, especially during the day. dont hate the player, hate the game :P but dont, the game is the shit |
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| Author: | Girlock [ Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:00 pm ] |
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OASIS, That's exactly the review I was looking for Thanks! It's clear I have thinkgs to work on but getting pointed in the right direction is a big help. I have the day off today and I'm going to the mall to practice day game all day. I'm glad I read this before I left. I will be definitely be putting more videos up. This one was shot on an i-pnone but I will start to use my other video camera. thanks again |
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| Author: | Tasty [ Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:33 pm ] |
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Very nice... confident approach. Nice and smooth 2 things I noticed immediately: You opened her from like 8 feet away. I know there were boxes and she was busy, but it would have been better if you acted like you were walking passed her, then all of a sudden noticed her as you were 2 feet away, "I was wondering..." Were your hand in your jacket pockets? Huge no no... "what is he hiding? why are his hands in his pockets?" |
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| Author: | l oasis l [ Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:28 am ] |
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Quote: OASIS, That's exactly the review I was looking for Thanks! It's clear I have thinkgs to work on but getting pointed in the right direction is a big help. I have the day off today and I'm going to the mall to practice day game all day. I'm glad I read this before I left. I will be definitely be putting more videos up. This one was shot on an i-pnone but I will start to use my other video camera. thanks again
Always glad to help, video taping yourself during pickup sky rockets your learning curve for surrrre, so keep it up. check out davidwygant on youtube, he has some good daygame footage
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| Author: | venom0088 [ Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:41 am ] |
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uhhhhhhhh i can nit pick alot of things =\. First of all the approach wasnt spontaneous . Try to make it spontaneous, like you just had something pop in your head and had to ask. She played along with it, propably due to boredom, just for fun or any of the above. saying " i dont know" is never good. Alphas always know what they want. Remember your the one approaching her, you should always have something interesting ready to say. Cant come of and leave a pause. When she mentions the boyfriend, you could have playfully responded " You know what, i just got a great idea. Tell your boyfriend to cook some dinner for us" jokingly. Iono not that bad tho . I applaud you for going thru with it lol |
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| Author: | venom0088 [ Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:41 am ] |
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uhhhhhhhh i can nit pick alot of things =\. First of all the approach wasnt spontaneous . Try to make it spontaneous, like you just had something pop in your head and had to ask. She played along with it, propably due to boredom, just for fun or any of the above. saying " i dont know" is never good. Alphas always know what they want. Remember your the one approaching her, you should always have something interesting ready to say. Cant come of and leave a pause. When she mentions the boyfriend, you could have playfully responded " You know what, i just got a great idea. Tell your boyfriend to cook some dinner for us" jokingly. Iono not that bad tho . I applaud you for going thru with it lol |
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| Author: | donkrx [ Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:28 am ] |
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Thanks for posting... you did a pretty good job. My impressions: -definitely agree about the spontaneous aspect... walk past her, turn around, say "hey .. do you know..." like you just had a thought pop into your head. The way you approached her looked somewhat planned, despite the fact that you were pretty casual and natural. -hands in pockets probably not so good, not the worst though... it just matters how you appear... if you look casual and comfortable with your hands in your pockets it can be ok, but as general rule probably steer away. ======= As far as her continuing the conversation being an IOI, I don't know. I do think you should assume IOI unless its clearly not.... but she might have chosen to ask you what you were doing because it was either that or awkward silence. Its mostly about the body language. If she looks comfortable and asks you what you are doing, IOI then. Here, she kept on folding boxes and looking down, so that looks slightly uncomfortable to me. |
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