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| Author: | JSmooth [ Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:41 pm ] |
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J. Smooth - Building Social Proof <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/uA6ThpE-2QE&hl ... ram><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/uA6ThpE-2QE&hl ... 2=0x54abd6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> Hope you get something useful out of the video guys. |
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| Author: | Sabu [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:28 pm ] |
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Great advice. I always find your videos very informative |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:37 pm ] |
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Quote: Great advice. I always find your videos very informative
Thank you. I always appreciate any feedback I get. Especially, when it's positive. |
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| Author: | Chino Kapone [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:01 pm ] |
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J, love the vid. Social proof is sooooo important from both guys and girls. Something I would like to add that I find that helps me get into a talkative mood is grab a cup of coffee and cruise the mall flirting with a bunch of the hired guns, like the cologne girls, before you go out. Just helps get my mind going and I tend to carry that energy with me wherever I go. Another thing I would like to add that I have found that works great is get to the club early. Like when it is 1/4 full, which is usually around 1030 or so. What I have found out is that several people that are there are waiting on their friends to get there so they really want someone to talk to or dance with. Last week I got on the dance floor early by myself. Then the hottest girl in the club wanted to dance with me. We grinded 3 or 4 times. Girls would come up to me after to dance and say they saw me, liked my moves, wondered if I break danced. Plus most guys get on the dance floor only after they are hammered... If you do it sober, it is a great DHV. When you get to the club early there is less competition. Might not be as many girls, but when their friends show up and you have been approved by them it makes you look like the man. Didn't want to jack the thread, just add some input. CK |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:15 pm ] |
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Great Points Chino! You know I completely agree with you here. I enjoy getting to a venue early but not too early. You have to find that sweet spot of about 30-50 people in the room where it's starting to pickup but not busy yet. |
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| Author: | rocky9118 [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:02 pm ] |
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Jsmooth . you give out some great advise. I had a question on one of my threads . hope you can answer it for me bro. thanks also how do you build a social circle? and do you have videos on kino escalation? or kino |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:55 pm ] |
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Quote: Jsmooth . you give out some great advise. I had a question on one of my threads . hope you can answer it for me bro. thanks
All the videos that I have for the most part are on the web. There are a few more I'm still developing but I don't have anything on kino just yet. It's something I've thought about heavily.also how do you build a social circle? and do you have videos on kino escalation? or kino One of my main thoughts was whether to try to fit it in a ten minute video like on Youtube or to break it up into two videos going further into Kino Escalating. Anyways, I will definitely consider that for my next video idea! Thanks! If you need any tips on Kino feel free to PM me though. Getting to your questions of building a social circle. It's pretty much the same as the ideas for building your social proof. If there are groups or people that you tend to click with then you can spend some extra time there and just befriend them. By that I mean intentionally work to build rapport and comfort without attraction. There are many girls I liked but didn't vibe with. In some cases I immediately just worked to befriend them, and then got their number and setup a "friend" date. I would say something like, my buddies and I are heading out next weekend you all should come with. Then I transitioned into getting someone's number. I do the same thing with the hired guns in the venues I've talked to over and over. There was one club down here that has about 25 people that worked there. At one point before some turn over I knew 20 of them personally and had almost everyone's phone number. This extends to the bartenders, bouncers, shooter girls, etc. Just intentionlly be their friend. Anyways, since you are talking to everyone you will get a feel for people pretty quick. You can carefully pick and choose your social circle. Hope that answers your question. |
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| Author: | JSmooth [ Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:34 pm ] |
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Here is some interesting things from Sinn that I just received about building social proof. These are great tips in addition to the ones we discussed. Quote:
Hey guys,
Today I want to finish up my 3 part article on Lifestyle with an article on The Places you go. We've already talked about Lifestyle Design and The People You Know. Now we want to talk about the places you will be going. You want to have a variety of places you go, where you can either meet or bring women you're interested in. Generally you should have at least 3 different places that you can meet women. I like to meet girls at bars, coffee shops, and at the gym. I can also bring dates to all 3 of these places to socially proof myself with the people that work there. This brings us to the second point of places you go. Social proof and high status SPAM. When I lived in Dallas, there were 3 different bars within 5 blocks of my apartment where I could skip lines, and get free drinks. This happened because I went to these bars multiple times a week for a variety of different reasons. On the weekends, I would go there to pick up girls, on weekdays I would go there with girls I was seeing or on dates, Sometimes I would just go there to eat some appetizers and chat with the staff. The point is you want to be seen a lot. One mistake guys make when they are trying to network or get "hooked up" is they ask for names too early. You don't want to look like you're desperately trying to make friends with the bartender as that can be transparent. Also make sure to tip well early on. You don't have to keep tipping that well but you should always leave more than 15% for bartenders. Another thing you can do to stand out is order the same drink every time. I personally drink Vodka Diet Coke which is not particularly common. At least not for dudes ☺ Don't do anything cheesy like ask for the "usual" .but if you do this right, the bartenders should ask you if you want your drink a few weeks in. You also want to make sure that you bring girls around these places as much as possible. As silly as it sounds word does get around bars and regulars do exist. The more people are talking about how you're always in there with different girls, the easier it will be to get special SPAM and sleep with members of the bar staff... Lastly you want to make sure that you befriend the regulars. I used to do this all wrong. Early on in my "pick up career" I would identify other guys at the bar that were naturals and try to "out game" them. This was really immature and actually hurt my success in the venue. In bars, clubs, coffee shops, gyms, etc... There are always regulars. People you are going to see OVER and OVER again. You want to make the best possible impression with these people. The more they like you, the more they will help you in a variety of ways. The first way regulars can help you is by providing you with a home base. When you're out alone, or with a date, you can always stop by and chat with some of the regulars. It helps you with social proof on dates, and helps get you warmed up and talkative when you are out alone. The second way that getting to know regulars helps you is through make shift social circles. Regulars often have friends who come out every once in awhile, oftentimes these friends are attractive women from out of town looking to party that night. An introduction goes a long way in that situation. You can reap similar benefits in coffee shops, yoga classes, and gyms as well. That concludes the lessons on Lifestyle, I'll be including specific lifestyle suggestions from my own life in future emails. Talk to ya soon, S |
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| Author: | theboss92 [ Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:55 am ] |
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yes ur videos are always clear and helpful |
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