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Author:  eripmav [ Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:24 am ]
Post subject:  FINALLY: Gambler in field footage
Gambler starts around 5 minutes in after an introduction by AFCAdam.

Discuss.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn0xbK2yql4[/youtube][/youtube]
Author:  Bond-007 [ Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:32 pm ]
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It is nice indeed to watch on footage the guys who wrote things on how to pick up and made videos of it.

I wanna focus on a couple of things that even Adam does:

The nodding: I dont think this is a cool move, nor stealth. Isn`t a common advice of body lenguage NOT to nod at what the girl is saying?
He has a poker face on, thats good, he wont let her know if hes happy or amazed at some of the things she said; but nodding indicates a usual sign of validation, wich indicates hes putting hes value at risk.

It is also a natural thing I do, I admit it, it comes natural since I was a little kid, but I think it makes you look nervous.

Another fact that shocked me was the lasting time of the interaction, 45 mins of talking in a loud club??

I mean, the fact that the girl leaves with him is great, totally worth it, but in a loud club how do I manage to interact for 45 mins without boring the girl that probably wants you to dance with her or otherwise dance with the next guy?

Also, my interactions with strangers never lasted more than 10 mins, maybe thats the reason I couldnt take any of the girls home :P

I cant help but notice how light kino took place in the interaction; we can only see him touching the girls arms, but I didnt watched the claw or any more bold moves in order to escalate.
Maybe they were erased from footage or not showed, but isnt kino your biggest weapon to ensure the attraction? Isnt heavy kino the difference between taking the girl home and not doing so?
Author:  Jacob292 [ Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:10 pm ]
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Bond, you're right on some levels.

In most of the gaming people use, the guy does most of the work. What Gambler is demonstrating here is what he calls Stealth Attraction. He has a set of DVDs on that.

Essentially, he organizes the whole interaction in such a way that he does not show that he's creating attraction, and by that, he is DHV'ing himself a lot.

As Gambler puts it in his Stealth Attraction DVD pack, with most gaming you can easily get up to HB8. HB9+ is more difficult because those girls have already seen guys like you, doing "normal gaming". To have much much better chances of getting HB9+, you should use stealth attraction.


Just like anything, practice makes perfect, and Stealth attraction is more for people with an advance level already.
Author:  jsmyong55 [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:56 am ]
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What did he do (besides moving his position of course) to make her interested in him? If he isn't speaking much and the girl would have to do all the talking, won't she get bored? She always has the option of moving on( getting out from where she is sitting from) but she doesn't do it.. any thoughts?
Author:  coolbrownie69 [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:13 pm ]
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good shit, I wanna check this video out later... *tag
Author:  Jacob292 [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:58 pm ]
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What did he do (besides moving his position of course) to make her interested in him? If he isn't speaking much and the girl would have to do all the talking, won't she get bored? She always has the option of moving on( getting out from where she is sitting from) but she doesn't do it.. any thoughts?
She doesn't get bored because Gambler puts on a poker face. The girl is looking for validation, for proof that she seems interesting to him. And since Gambler is barely reacting to what she is saying, she feels like she needs to do more to prove to him that she's interesting.

At the same time, he isn't completely passive. We don't see the full interaction here, but most probably, he does react by talking and asking more information as to what she is saying. But indeed, she is doing more of the talking.

From my point of view, what he is doing really looks like 60YOC's method, mixed up with Natural Game (which is what he teaches).
Author:  J Slay [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:48 pm ]
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if you watch the whole video, Adam goes into detail about what Gambler is doing.

recommend watching the whole thing
Author:  Allahz Apostle [ Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:32 pm ]
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I thought this was suppose to be infield footage of Richard La Ruina, not 15 minutes of AFC Adam running his jaw...
Author:  chany313 [ Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:22 am ]
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Very intresting video it looks easy. But I think Gambler has so much experience that he knows how to react exactly to be succefull.

It would be interesting to know what they were talking about and how exactly the situation started.
Author:  kuurt [ Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:11 am ]
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Okay, so he doesn't face his body toward her at all, and a lot of the time his face isn't even facing her. Plus he keeps a straight poker face which I would think would make you look like you have no personality. And yet some how the girl is interested in him. I don't get it at all, seems like the girl would be thinking, "oh my god, this guy is as boring as a rock".

In the video Adam says there are subtle little things that Gambler does to get the girl interested, or to get her to invest. It would have been nice to know what subtle things he was talking about, but he doesn't take the time to tell us that.

One more thing I don't understand, while Gambler teaches that you should keep eye contact the whole time (even if there is a pause in the coversation) to maintain a connection with the girl, he himself doesn't do that in this video. So what's up with that?
Author:  mi1ooo98 [ Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:27 am ]
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Amazing video, inspiring. I learnt a major point with leading.
Author:  Warped Mindless [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:40 am ]
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I'm sure Richard's game had some to do with it but Adam fails to mention some other important things as well...

1) They look to be in a VIP room. This gives him a lot of value
2) She doesn't seem to know many people there
3) Other than Adam who was with his wife, Richard was the only other non asian guy in the room from what I can tell. This is insanely important in relevance to the context. The truth is, tall good looking white women don't usually like shorter Asian guys. This gave Richard a huge advantage over anyone else in the room.
4) Also quite possible that Richard was one of the few guys in the room that spoke her language. This, however, is just a guess.
Author:  captainwex [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:17 pm ]
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I am pretty sure gambler paid adam to make up this shitty video.
It doesn't make any damn sense. I only see adam talking shit and only loud music on the footage.
He could make up this shit easy.
Author:  Lionel [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:00 pm ]
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Very strange video. I only see Asian people inside. So how big are the odds to find a white girl in there ? And Adam said when he returned at 4 he saw the girl leave the hotel. How big are the odds that she leaves exactly when Adam gets home. And AFC Adam's smile really bothers me. It looks really really fake. I don't trust this guy.
Author:  Gradi0 [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:24 pm ]
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This isn't infield footage.

It looks like a video camera from the 1950's, there's no audio, this video is garbage.

For the best pickup artist in the world, I expect him to be top-notch and have good quality videos everywhere.

The only thing I've seen in videos of Gambler is how good he says he is, and how good other people in his company say he is.

Scam artist.
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