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| Author: | Sleeper [ Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:07 pm ] |
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Just wanted to say that I wish I found out about this 5 years ago. My experience in college would have been a lot different. I just recently read "The Game" which opened my eyes to everything I did wrong in the past with girls that I wanted to hook up with and figured out problems that I'm still doing. I was a little skeptical about everything that I read in the book so I had to do some research and do a test run on a couple of the techniques that Styles talks about. I couldn't believe that the pick up artist community even existed and I ran the cube on a couple of girls and it works. I read on some of the things from the fastseduction101 website and other PUA sites that google was able to bring up. I'm pretty excited about being a PUA and ooking forward on the improvements that I'll be able to accomplish on myself and hope to be just as good as a PUA Guru. Sorry, didn't get to introduce myself. I'm 26 and live in Hawaii. Looking forward to sharing my experiences and being critiqued on them. Once I get better, I hope to be able to give out good advice to everyone else on here. |
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| Author: | Hungry Like the Wolf [ Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:50 pm ] |
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Welcome but, do yourself a favor and stay away from Strauss' canned openers. The Game is an international best seller. Everybody knows about it and the openers and you _do not_ want to get caught with them. Once you get a rep as a gamer, game's over. |
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| Author: | Sleeper [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:24 am ] |
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That's true, I'm trying to capture the concept and then configure to fit me. You got any recommendations on any other books that I should read up on? I've been reading up on what's on the web but I know the books would provide more detailed information since you would have to pay for them. |
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| Author: | Hungry Like the Wolf [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:58 pm ] |
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First, subscribe to David DeAngelo's newsletter at http://www.doubleyourdating.com I've read that he has a good technique for the science nerds. Next, just read the posts here and at http://wwv.themysterymethod.com/forum/index.php . I think you'll get more out of these than most books and it's free. Finally, and what I'm about to tell you is often overlooked and it is a HUGE factor, read Leil Lowndes' "How to make anyone fall in love with you" but keep in mind, you can't do everything she says and be successful. Her book is a great start for understanding how kinesics (body language) work and how to use it to your advantage, and you _will_ need to know how to control your body language. According to some egg head at UCLA, communications is 55% body language, 38% tone of voice but only 7% comes from the words we choose. Women communicate very differently than men do. We read the body language a little but don't intentionally use it to communicate while women rely heavily on body language and tone of voice. We listen mostly to the words we speak and pay little or no attention to anything else. But we can learn the language. I'm sure you have been around someone who was upset and you knew they were upset even though they never said anything to you about it. How did you know? Their body language and tone of voice! You need to turn that ability to communicate around. You need to send out the signals that say you are fun to be around, you are the prize to be won, you are approachable even though you are selective, you've got balls, YOU ARE THE ALPHA. I have found that I can make a woman feel attraction for me just by the way I look at her and carry myself around her. I have learned to speak in this new language. Now I just need to learn how to keep the attraction going, but that's my issue. |
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| Author: | Sleeper [ Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:15 am ] |
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Right on dude. Thanks for the tip. Just ordered the book and signed up for the news letter. I read up on these and hopefully follow up with a good field report for everyone. |
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| Author: | magicJ2007 [ Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:26 pm ] |
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HEY WELCOME : WORD OF ADVICE FOR YOU rember the one who goes to the top are the one who is willing to sacrfice, the one who is willing to fail , the one who is willing to be reject, the one who is willing to be slapped. the more times you fail , the more times you ll learn how not to fail. That is how you will FINE TUNE your skills in da night club MAGIC J. |
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| Author: | Sleeper [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:05 pm ] |
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I know what you mean!!!! Practice makes perfect and shaping your skill won't come overnight....... I've just got done reading Deangelo's double your dating and freakin think it's pretty awesome. I read up on Jugglers material and really like his thought process and handling of conversations. I really agree with both of these Guru's but taking parts of each of them and using it to build my own type of style. Maybe I'll call it the Sleeper Method!!!! LOL Nah, just playing... Got a long ways to go before I can say that. I've been out sarging, by myself but mostly with a wing, and starting to develop the type of style of coming under the radar and attacking stereo types and misconceptions that they would usually have if they first saw me. This usually takes them by surprise...... But it's been working whenever I do get a chance to go out and sarge. I'm starting to read up on Ross Jeffries materials on fast seduction. I noticed that I need to work on changing phases and moving on to creating sexual tension. Ross's material is pretty good at setting this mood but if anyone got other suggestions, just post it up. I'm trying not to make becoming a PUA affect other things that I got in my life and I have to admit, this is very difficult but Project Management skills come in very handy. So instead of playing video games or watching television, I tend to feed knowledge into my dome. But always have to make sure to practice the material to really get it and understand it. With all I have said, I would like to say thanks for the post and I will make sure that I keep everyone updated. If you got any other suggestions, please feel free to post it up. |
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| Author: | Hungry Like the Wolf [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:48 pm ] |
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Hey Sleeps, Listen to Magic. He's right. Don't expect anything out of a approach except an education. Risk everything because, there will always be a second chance. I've been listening to DeAngelo's stuff and found that I've been using it for about 10 years. Ex. (FR) I was at my favorite outside bar 2 nights ago yucking it up with the bouncer (a woman) and some 30 yo woman walked between us on her way out and she said "Excuse me" to which I replied in a serious tone of voice (No, I won't.) She took three steps, stopped, turned around with a big smile on her face and started laughing. (Sorry Dave, I couldn't help myself. I had to laugh. It was just too much fun.) Sleeps, make this fun. It's not about getting laid, it's about having fun with a woman. The sex will come all by itself provided you believe it will. You have to know in your mind that she want's sex as much as you do but she is going to be selective and maybe she won't select you but if she doesn't then it's her loss because you are the prize. Know what I've just said on a fundamental, gut level basis. Believe it! This is your inner game assignment for the week. This and go out and have fun. |
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| Author: | Sleeper [ Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:07 am ] |
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Wuss up Wolf, Thanks for the support. I know that F-close and #-closes will come in time. Me and my wingman, Phreekstyles, usually go out and just make a game out of the whole thing. We're always working on the first couple of steps to being a PUA little by little each time we go out sarging. And as always, we go and talk about what we did and how we could of have improved in each of the sets that we opened up. I have to admit, we are pretty good at opening and starting to read their body language. Now were working on building rapport and DHV. But step by step, little by little, I'm working at improving and just enjoying every moment. It's funny that you said that we have to enjoy and have fun with it because that's what me and my wing will make sure we do every night we do go out sarging. Clubbing isn't the same as it was before. I don't drink to get toasted anymore, if I do feel a little tipsy, water starts to be my good friend. But right on for the support and I'll keep ya'll posted with the progress. |
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