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Author:  XxSpaceRacer2020xX [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:12 am ]
Post subject:  ...The Unlikely Convert...
Welcome to Johnny B: Popular, Well-Spoken, Good-Looking, Self-Confident

What's my problem??? I've never kissed a girl. Ever.

How you ask? Its a long story...if you are willing to read I am willing to tell!

Introduction:

Ok, so I'm a 22 yr old college student living in Miami. I have a great job, my own apartment, and I am well-known in my school FIU because I'm in a Fraternity and am active on campus. I have soooooo many things going for me, and I recognize this.

However, I also realize that I am SEVERELY lacking in some ways.


Background:

I grew up in a very "Christian" home...one that was so Christian that my parents believed that you shouldn't kiss girls until you are married to them! They were also very restrictive with dating...and seemed to discourage it at every turn. Did they want me to be gay? I don't know. lol.


Situation:

It took me a few years and alot of drinking to detox from that situation. lol. I'm now by all objective standards an up-and-coming AMOG. I'm naturally funny, engaging and have lots of opening potential, however I feel that I am
extremely disadvantaged because I don't know how to move to kino and then kissing. I've noticed that I can easily catch girls attention, but I quickly lose attention after 30 sec - 3 min because I have difficulty transitioning.

This gets very discouraging. For the past few years, only the following outcomes occur:

1. My lack of experience drains my confidence. I don't initiate at all.
2. My lack of confidence with kino causes my IOI to be ambiguous. I fall into the friend zone. (this usually happens with latina HB10s!!)
3. With the girls that do show IOI back, I tend to diffuse situations and start to act incongruent because I am intimidated about messing up the next step.

For the longest time I thought that my difficulties dating were because I hadn't met "the right girl". Total bullshit!! It's my falut! I am new to PUAs, but I now realize that your philosophy is right on.

I'm ready to move on. I'm ready to grow and explore my possibilities. I really think I could make a great PUA because I have all the natural abilities. But I keep fucking up my head because I start worrying about messing up. I know this is very middle-school, but this is my struggle. I'm just being honest.

So here I am, ready to learn. Teach me so that I may grow.

Question:

Since its my first time for everything, I have this crazy fantasy in my head that I want it to be with someone I actually like. But then I find that I am completely unable to execute if I do find that girl. Must I completely ignore that fantasy and fuck a fat chick just for experience sake?

Take my poll. Any advise would be awesome. Thanks for reading.

~Johnny B
Author:  SunCruze [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:22 am ]
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Depends really.. you could be waiting days, months or years for 'the right girl'. In the meantime, experience is a great teacher and can help you round those mental road-blocks.

Cheers
SC
Author:  sarge [ Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:49 pm ]
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Wow, you must be LDS,, the major problem you will have is getting laid and then getting whipped,,, the first "nice" girl you bed is going to make you go nuts, I hate to say it , but go out and find a great looking Whore, prostitute and do her. You will prob. have "feelings" for her also, just ignore them as best as you can and get another whore, soon you will not be empowered by the mighty clit..... Many men have went to war and died over this powerful body part,,,, Master it before it masters you, good luck... Frogster BTW, dont fuck a fat chick , you may temp. fall for her&be whipped, added to the fact that she will not leave you alone, trust me! And fucking a fat chick doggy style sucks, you can usually smell their sweaty asshole if they have been out dancing etcc.. :shock: :lol: :lol:
Author:  XxSpaceRacer2020xX [ Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:20 am ]
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Yeah...I think you have a very good point. In my current position I have a very high likelihood of getting whipped.

Any cons to getting a hooker other than it being expensive and potentially damaging to my reputation? Any other choices? I have a really hard time hitting on girls I'm not interested in so I don't think that is an option.
Author:  Killians [ Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:39 am ]
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boys :roll:

Why would you bother with a filthy hooker or someone you are not attracted to? thats just dumb.

You should just learn some techniques, date around but nothing serious with multiple girls (so you dont get attached to just 1) and then you can progress into something sexual with someone (either it be fwb, fb, or LTR).
Author:  XxSpaceRacer2020xX [ Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:11 am ]
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Quote:
boys :roll:

Why would you bother with a filthy hooker or someone you are not attracted to? thats just dumb.

You should just learn some techniques, date around but nothing serious with multiple girls (so you dont get attached to just 1) and then you can progress into something sexual with someone (either it be fwb, fb, or LTR).

Because since I have absolutely NO EXPERIENCE, i lack the confidence that I need to even go out on dates. I'm always intimidated that when I have to take things to the next step and kiss her, I'm gonna do it poorly and she'll be weirded out. :( Same with sex. That's why I think I need to get a hooker or something just so I can get on this horse and start learning. lol
Author:  sarge [ Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:24 am ]
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Craigslist.net is full of local help, just get her to come to you in a public place first, meet&eat&meat ..... I dont really condone the use of girls for pay, but in this circumstance it deserves merit,,,, not all the girls that do this are nasty etc... some are just down and out or enjoy it,,,,,,, whatever you do wrap that rascal!!!!! Do not french kiss her, I doubt she would let you anyways,,, but you can kiss her neck, breast, etc.... be safe&be smart& enjoy
Author:  XxSpaceRacer2020xX [ Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:18 pm ]
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So let's say I did find one of these non-disgusting hookers...I should limit my oral contact to her lips? (not touch tongue/pussy/etc?)

Sorry to be dragging this convo on but I really am pretty clueless. :(
Author:  sarge [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:11 am ]
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Put it this way, she's a prostitute, would you kiss your dog after he licks his balls? She may of had a mouth full off balls an hr before she met you, just something to salivate over...
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