Welcome and thanks for posting, but...

Where is the advice? ( )

There's actually a few feminists on the forums who come to learn and understand pick up and why men turn to it.

I find it ironic that you would speak about jumping the gun and judging people based on rumours and misconceptions when you suggest you're here to teach us alternative ways to woo women "and treat them with respect" as if we do not respect women or even try to. It's a huge misinterpretation by many women that pick up is disrespectful towards them when it couldn't be any more different. If you follow pick up most of the mature PUAs will try preach respect towards women it's more the newbies who come to use the tools of PU in hopes of wooing any woman and "flick that magic switch so they can't say no" who are disrespectful and they are specific people in it for specific reasons(As much sex as possible).

Truth is a lot of the people who come here do so in order to have a girlfriend or change themselves so they can get the girl, in most cases, they want to be with and love not simply fuck. In other instances people simply want to improve their repertoire with women in order to improve themselves and have the kind of woman they want and they deserve(Men deserve a quality woman just as women deserve a quality man). In the relationship section you'll have many posts of men who are in relationships but feel it's falling apart and ask how to fix it or how they can change to higher their value in order to get respect that was lost from their partner to reignite interest. In this you'll find that the only advice people give is to work on yourself, work out, not obsess over the girl(give her and yourself space), meanwhile improve yourself both physically and mentally. The majority of the time this improves peoples relationships and helps turn it around.

Of course, Pick Up is a tool and a tool can be manipulated by it's master however you'll find very few using these tools to openly manipulate and harm women and, at least on these forums, if techniques are used to have a negative impact on the target it will be widely slammed by the greater community as it's more than frowned upon.

Suffice to say you should look into pick up, it's beliefs and the types of people who use it. You'll find it doesn't warrant all the hate. So, forget the old saying "Don't hate the player, hate the game" and learn to think "Hate the player, not the game" if the player warrants it.

What's your point OP? Everything is so vague.

What exactly do you want to get from this thread, hmm? Would you like to discuss: "How to properly respect women?"

I'll start.

Women are not objects. They are human. They have clitorises that harden and vaginas that get wet. They feel sexually aroused too like men. To properly respect women, men should learn to sexually escalate skilfully so women are treated as human beings and not as inanimate objects of desire.

Your turn.

Yes, consensual sex and seduction are part of it but respect goes beyond the realm of sex. I will assume you know this. Thank you for your reply.

(and let's be real I've seen my share already on these forums). My advice will be directed towards self-improvement