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| Author: | BPYC:Korea [ Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Hello new masf? Sorry for the long-winded story, |
I was a member of the old forums a few years ago but lost interest in pua(lack of motivation on my part). I recently got back into it as a result of a failed lay attempt recently, I'll post that field report after this intro. Suffice to say, I'm surprised by the new layout, much cleaner lol, if this is masf of course. (I actually wrote my dynamics with women at the end of my introduction but then I realized that you guys might want to know my experience level before my acknowledgement of the pua community, hell you probably don't even want to know my research journey, but for those who do, there you go). My actual foray into the real life applications of pua isn't as involved as my research as you will probably recognize. I haven't had much experience with the opposite sex before or after(a bit more) pua. There were two other lays and the occasional make-out and finger pop but the most pivotal moments that have affected are mentioned below. 1st girl -- Lets see if I can remember, when I was in 11th grade(before pua knowhow), I went to second base with a hb6 at school, there was a bit of flirtatious banter, she was stretching in front of me and I progressed from there. Wasn't terribly difficult to go to second from my recollections, didn't kiss close, I remember she had bad breath(which in retrospect I acknowledge was an excuse for me to not make a move) but I did number close, again how difficult would that be if you've already fondled the woman's breasts. Problem was that I didn't have access to a cellular phone for leisure, Virgin Mobile was my service and my mother was a stickler for minutes. My mother in general was highly over-protective so I couldn't really do anything “extra-curricular” even if I wanted to. During college however, I'm paying my own cell so I'm good in that regard, logistics still a problem but hey w/e. 2nd girl – Fast forward to 19 years of age(after pua knowhow), I honestly don't think I did anything to this girl, didn't even know she existed. We had a speech class, unbeknownst to me, but I came to know her through work study at college via the library. She tells me she always had a thing for me, I'm like hell yeah this gonna be a freebie. I wasn't particularly attracted to this girl, but to lose my virginity I'd take it. I've always had little funds so women were always the ones taking me out for food and whatnot. So we go to Chipotle(a mexican style fast food joint for those who don't know) and when we're done she gives me a bj in her car. Didn't really dig it at the time, even now don't really enjoy it. A couple weeks later she comes to my place, we do oral but thats it. My fault though, she was in the mood and practically begging for it but shit I was scared and didn't wanna use a condom on her, weird I know. We do that a couple more times but we eventually ended the relationship, nothing progressed. 3rd girl – First lay, I'm 21 or 22, don't remember which, taking a business class with a Muslim woman from Ethiopia. It begins with me helping her in class, then with us hanging out. That's how my ventures usually happen, I befriend them first then over time escalate towards the sexual. Yeah I know, not efficient, but w/e. First kissed her outside Chipotle, she wasn't startled as much as being aware that we were still in the vicinity of her peers and her culture/religion doesn't approve of what we're doing. I didn't think of that problem at first but learned quick. She drove me home after our class, went to a secluded park and did the due in her car. (Tidbit, theres not much advice I can give but East Africans in general don't seem to resist much once they like you, I've had conversations with other people that were with East Africans and they say the same thing, just a heads up if you were interested.) A little about me, I've known of the community for some time now. I came across this subculture around 2007 when Vh1s pickup artist first aired. I was in my senior year of high school then, but didn't really take it seriously at that point. Looked up Mystery and read The Game at a public library not to long after the first season. That book was an eye-opener for me so I bought Mystery Method from Barnes and Noble, it became like a religious tome for me. It was like I found my religion and Mystery was a prophet. I know, I took it to the dark side of this community of basically worshiping gurus and taking their word as gospel. You'd think that with such investment on my part on idolizing gurus', in particular Erik Von Markovik, that at this point in time, I'd be as adept as he is or was in the past; but that isn't the case, I'm in a little better position now that I was then not by much though. I think I just enjoyed the fantasy of being like Markovik to a higher degree than me actually developing this muscle. At this point in time, I was unaware of fastseduction, I don't know how I missed that forum reading The Game, I was probably just focused on Mystery the whole time I read that book. A year or so goes by and my pua activity, which was non-existent in the first place, drops from my mind. Other things took precedence such as graduation from hs and going to college, I've always kind of been a lazy student, but the vh1 show encompassed by mind to a degree that I was failing my classes and I didn't even care. So I enter college and pua enters my mind again, idk if it was the second season or just a random thought that got me into it but w/e. This is around 2009 or so, I'm not positive. Then I research a bit more because I lent my copy of MM to somebody and I forgot most of the material. I come across fastseduction, and I'm just reading tome after tome, it was unbelievable, I was getting this knowledge but I wasn't really applying anything so that part was weird. From what I remember I took information from Ijjji, BlackDragon, BradP, Mystery, JWS, JohnnyC69, Gunwitch, 60 years of challenge, possibly much more, but I don't remember much of the material of the people I mentioned above(I downloaded their archives, had to see that list again to remember some of the names, oddly enough Sleazy and TVAoslo didn't have their own archives then or now). During this period I was Tangential Tapestry on the forums, or something like that, there was a prolific poster, I forgot his name but he advocated tangents in his conversation. I know that's a normal thing but the way he put it sounded innovative to me, so that's where the name came from. At this time, I still wasn't developing this muscle so I lost interest yet again. This entire period lasted a year or so I think, around 2010 I lost interest. During the interim of these periods, I think of pua off and on, mostly because I know it exists, but the last surge of my interest prior to last month occurs around 2012. Through a mutual friend I come across a Kenyan pua, I'm African American if that matters at all, and he's light years ahead of me. He knows of Mystery but retrieved most of his ideology from Paul Janka, at least at the time. He gets me into Janka, and my mind is blown yet again, I have cognitive dissonance at this point because I still held MM to high esteem, even though I knew of others, Mystery was like an enlightened figure to me. Well, apparently I got over it because I downloaded both his ebooks Getting Laid in NY and Attraction Formula and his Day Game series, just a couple months ago I downloaded his Beyond the Digits series. Janka was like a machine to me, I think I accepted Janka because I feel/felt that day game would suit me better than night game, I don't even go to clubs/bars. I think that was another reason why MM was more of a fantasy to me, I don't go to his type of venues. I still didn't use the forums much besides the occasional reading and revisiting prior gurus, I was pretty glued to Janka, and never really lost interest, to this day I still listen to his mp3s, I converted BTG to mp3 format too so... Fast forward to today, I'm still interested in Paul Janka but pua doesn't help me survive so I have to go back to the real world. You don't understand, for years, this was life for me and nothing else, which kind of explains the detrimental position I am in today, well that and my laziness/unmotivation. 24 years old, still live at home, no job, no car, just two associate degrees. Well to get my life in order, I joined the Air Force early this year and I leave for basic in November. I figure I would be deployed overseas at some point in time so I researched pua african american male overseas and came across the blog of Journey of Superman. Needless to say, I was impress by what I read in that international women show love for the “brothas” as he puts it. I contacted him about a week ago and he guided me towards Justin Wayne. Another eye-opener, primarily because Wayne's black himself and is successful, I've always felt that my race would hinder my success rate but I was proven wrong. Looking at Wayne's videos on youtube had me realize that he was a mixture of MM and 60 years of challenge. I've always like 60's system, as mentioned before I had his archive, so I downloaded a book of his, kind of, looks like I have a third-party pirate version or something, looks bizarre but w/e. I don't have torrent so I can't get his entire book series. Other than that, there's nothing really else pua related to me that I can say, my current surge in pua occurred around August when I found out my BMT ship date. I'm trying to get over my AA before tech school, I want to be different than I am now in the military. |
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