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Author:  svess [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:07 am ]
Post subject:  whats wrong?
Ok so I just got back from the bars and im new to the game and Ive been reading a lot about MM, as well as VA books and I completely understand how and what I am to do with the whole open, attract, comfort thing yet I have a serious problem applying it.

I just can't get myself to get past the opener. I just don't know what to say after the canned opener. Its like when were talking about let's say "some interesting fact/relationship issue" I just blank at where Im supposed to transition. I just DONT KNOW WHAT TO SAY for the life of me.

I dont consider myself an idiot since im taking college physics but wtf is wrong with me? I couldnt even bag a red headed slut who I KNEW wanted me because I just had no idea where to lead the interaction, even after reading a lot about PU. Whats stupid is that im actually very good looking, and when I stare into the eyes of some good looking girls im so socially awkwared that I dont know what to say because I just have a blank mind thinking "what do I say what do I say what do I say". Ive tried memorizing canned material but even that just blanks out completely.

Please help, I feel hopeless.
Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: whats wrong?
Stop reading so much, it's just fucking with your head!

Your goal is not to look for sex or a woman but merely to look for and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
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I couldnt even bag a red headed slut who I KNEW wanted me
So? Are you gonna quit?

Don't wait until everything is just right. It will never be perfect. There will always be challenges, obstacles and less than perfect conditions. So what. Get started now. With each step you take, you will grow stronger and stronger, more and more skilled, more and more self-confident and more and more successful.

Tear yourself away from the safe comfort of certainties that are not getting you laid!

Stop caring about the outcome, have a good time. Why be afraid of what a woman will say? Or how she will react? Those who attracted to you will react positively! And those who don’t aren't worth listening to anyway.

Limits exist only in the mind!

Pull up your big boy pants, and take the newbie challenge!

If your just going to sit around whining about it,you don't want it bad enough!

You can only grow if you are willing to feel awkward and uncomfortable when you try something new.

Practice online, who gives a shit what what you say on there or how you fuck up, hell you don't even need to take a shower or put on deodorant for the initial interaction faze!

AND you have plenty of time to think things through!

There is a shit ton of knowledge, openers, and interaction on here alone just for that!

Get off your ass and dedicate yourself to the good you deserve and desire for yourself.
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when I stare into the eyes of some good looking girls im so socially awkwared that I dont know what to say
How about "Hi" with a smile?
Author:  _Lothario_ [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 3:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: whats wrong?
Don't have anything interesting to say? Pull it out of her. Stop having the need to be anything to anyone. Make them meet up to your standards. Find out what your standards are.

You have attraction secured? Go kino. Escalate. Get yourself into a sexual state (aka Get A Boner) and qualify her.

GABAPYCO and GFTOW
Author:  .Sage. [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: whats wrong?
You cant just read and be magically cured of all your AFCness. It'll take dozens of approaches to be good at speaking with women. You have to fail before you succeed in life.
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GABAPYCO
What?
Author:  svess [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: whats wrong?
I appreciate all the wise words. I came home alone tipsy from the bars last night and leaned a bit to the emotional side. Not gonna lie, it felt good to rant about it somewhere. The same night I had a bad breakup w/ my ex. Whats interesting is that I don't really have much Approach Anxiety. Its that I just have no idea what to say after her "opinion" of my opener, I just get stuck.

So obviously thats one of my sticking points. How should I fix this? Should I throw in some canned DHVs right after? Also, what happens when the set starts to casually ignore and start back into their own conversation, does that mean I should move on to the next one?
Author:  .Sage. [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:40 pm ]
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Understand why what works "works". When you use an opinion/indirect opener, it allows a set to open up and start talking. Once they're talking and they've opened up to you, it's time to show you're a high value ALPHA male. there are tons of ways to do this, Cocky Funny, negs, stories, Interactive Value demonstrations, etc. A big thing on this site is "Do what works for you" So find routines that feel natural to you and work and go with them. Try them all if you have to, you'll never know unless you try.

If a set ignores you, it just means you did something wrong and were blown out of THAT set. Re-adjust, and move onto the next one. Practice makes perfect.
Author:  Hunter_Foxe [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:42 pm ]
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Routines SUCK if you have no natural conversation ability. Routines also suck if you cannot transition from social to sexual. Eye contact, touch, escalate etc.

Go into the set with the attitude of you are better than the girl and she should be working to get your attention.
Author:  .Sage. [ Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: whats wrong?
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Routines SUCK if you have no natural conversation ability. Routines also suck if you cannot transition from social to sexual. Eye contact, touch, escalate etc.

Go into the set with the attitude of you are better than the girl and she should be working to get your attention.
Routines are MUCH easier to use for beginners, especially the ones that just freeze up in front of a beautiful woman. When all else fails you can just plow through and recite lines, and keep doing that until you mimic natural conversation even though it's all scripted beforehand.

But again, do what works for you.
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