PUA Forum :: I'm sh*t with girls

I never said anywhere that I had complete confidence...I
iterated that I was becoming confident in myself for
going out of my comfort zone to better myself in
the sense in which I posted, but I never said I
had complete confidence. Don't make another assumption.

And dude, it's pretty clear to what I'm disagreeing with... You're telling
the gent that he must stick to girls that are on the same scale
of attractiveness as him. That is what I believe is the wrong
social stigmatic that is embedded within our society today
and that is why alot of guys out there unhappy and
unsatisfied in their relationships and their circles
in which they communicate to one another.

Let's break your advice down

Quote:

If you are lets say a 6/10, you should only approach women that are 6/10.

What is wrong there is that you're assuming Razorlight isn't an
attractive dude. Hell, I don't even know what he looks like and I'm
not even assuming here. For all we know he could be a pretty decent
good looking guy who girls might fancy him being an 8
or close to a 9 even if he's lucky, but he's "Shit" with girls and
he wants to know how get to better with them so
that's why he's come here for help.

Think about this for a second.
Let's just say, for arguments sake, that Razorblade
is infact a good looking dude and girls see him as...
an 8 in their minds yeah? So does that mean
that (contrary to your advice) he should
stick to girls that are 8/10 too,
the same attraction level as him? There's
a hole in your advice man and it's
lacking the sufficiency to actually
give him anything useful to take
away.

I think you need to
re-assess the way you give
advice to someone who is
struggling so that they
can feel more confident about
themselves instead of assuming their
attractiveness (or lack their of) is the main
cause for of the problem instead of giving the
grand solution and have them believe it
because you didn't bother to ask for
an image of him to see if he is indeed not
worthy of approaching women of high caliber.

Stop assuming, it's not doing anyone any justice.

Author:	Razorlight123 [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:25 am ]
Post subject:	*I'm sht with girls**
Basically as title, so I'd like to improve on it.

Author:	Chai [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:09 pm ]
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Any particular reason why you're shit with girls? what past experiences led you to this conclusion and what aspects of your life do you want improved? Help us out so we can you out man

Author:	GoldDust [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:09 pm ]
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Well then you're in the right place! For me personally, I would read David Deangelo Double Your Dating to start off with. That was the first book I read and it got me to begin teasing girls, something they love.

Author:	Chai [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:53 pm ]
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Alexander Technique isn't in that same book is it?

Author:	GoldDust [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:12 pm ]
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I don't think so, it doesn't ring any bells. What is that technique?

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Author:	tomhung [ Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:17 am ]
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i like "the alpha male system" by John Alexander. It's different to other game books because it focuses more on inner game and changing yourself, your mindset, and the way you approach and handle situations in life, rather then going out and running a load of canned material. worth looking into.

Author:	Chai [ Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:41 am ]
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Alexander Technique teaches the fundementls on how to be cocky funny, arrogant, convey good body language, being an alpha male and relaxing your state of mind around women to come off as cool and interesting... It's actually one of the best books for teaching outer game as is deals alot with improving your confidence with women and whatnot. Although, I just checked online, Alexander Technique is a book by John Alexander but i've also seen that David DeAngelo teaches the same technique on his bootcamp So they are different books but the methods are very similar.

Author:	mi1ooo98 [ Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:29 am ]
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Starting off is super fun, you realize so much stuff about yourself when you first start listening to a decent guru. You're in for a fun happy ride to success. Don't overload yourself with information, learn something, go try it, and then move on to the next thing. Good luck!

Author:	SexAddict911 [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:03 pm ]
Post subject:	*Re: I'm sht with girls**
Quote: Basically as title, so I'd like to improve on it. It all comes down to confidence. I suggest you work on building that. You have to honestly assess yourself. What I mean by this, is that you must give yourself a rating by societies standards. If you are lets say a 6/10, you should only approach women that are 6/10. If this becomes successful, you will slowly be building confidence soon you can move to 7, 8, 9... My advice to you is this: If you want to get serious about picking up women, it takes work. I suggest you learn to dance. Invest in a decent wardrobe. Get out there and work it.....don't give up so easy. If you are always polite, the worst that can happen is a girl tells you to "fuck off", but that's ok cuz you don't want anything to do with a woman like that anyways.

Author:	Chai [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:13 pm ]
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Quote: If you are lets say a 6/10, you should only approach women that are 6/10. If this becomes successful, you will slowly be building confidence soon you can move to 7, 8, 9 I have to have to disagree to that man. You mean to tell me that if your not on the same standard of beauty as the girl you would like to approach you should not approach her? That bullshit. I'm not the best looking guy in the world, I'll even admit that I'm a 6 going on 7, yet I still approach girls that are 9's and 10's! I even have high standards, like I want to make it my mission to approach girls of high beauty because it makes it that more exciting and scary when I'm out there approaching, to feel my heart pounding that fast at the same time is an awesome feeling! Whether you think you're attractive or not is irrelevant. I'm not a very attractive guy but I get out my house nearly everyday of the week and I go out there and practice, no matter the outcome, and that is what makes me that much better than those who are too scared to get out their bubble and do something about their current situation. You should NEVER, NEVER restrict yourself or barr yourself from interacting with others of higher caliber than yourself cause the more you do, the more scary it will become to approach them. I don't approach women that I don't find attractive, I instead approach girls which my heart stop and make my hands shake...THOSE are the kind of girls you should be approaching. You will get fluent and progress much faster by approaching hot girls first and overcomming that fear upfront instead of dealing with it later. Confront it and overcome it by approaching that hot girl which makes you scared, all you have to do is walk up to her and you're mind will take care of the rest, I've done it and I'm still doing it. Sure, fix your wardrobe, brush your hair and have a regular shower...! Looks do not matter and many of the great PUA's tell us this. If you are confident in yourself and you show the people around you that you don't care about the negative stuff that others say about and at the same time come off as someone to who can be admired and respected... that's the beauty.

Author:	SexAddict911 [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:59 pm ]
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Chai, you are speaking on behalf of yourself. You already seem to have complete confidence. I suggest the next time you get all ramped up to write your opinion. Perhaps you should read more clearly what it is you are disagreeing with. The advice given was suited to that person.

Author:	Chai [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:27 pm ]
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I never said anywhere that I had complete confidence...I iterated that I was becoming confident in myself for going out of my comfort zone to better myself in the sense in which I posted, but I never said I had complete confidence. Don't make another assumption. And dude, it's pretty clear to what I'm disagreeing with... You're telling the gent that he must stick to girls that are on the same scale of attractiveness as him. That is what I believe is the wrong social stigmatic that is embedded within our society today and that is why alot of guys out there unhappy and unsatisfied in their relationships and their circles in which they communicate to one another. Let's break your advice down Quote: If you are lets say a 6/10, you should only approach women that are 6/10. What is wrong there is that you're assuming Razorlight isn't an attractive dude. Hell, I don't even know what he looks like and I'm not even assuming here. For all we know he could be a pretty decent good looking guy who girls might fancy him being an 8 or close to a 9 even if he's lucky, but he's "Shit" with girls and he wants to know how get to better with them so that's why he's come here for help. Think about this for a second. Let's just say, for arguments sake, that Razorblade is infact a good looking dude and girls see him as... an 8 in their minds yeah? So does that mean that (contrary to your advice) he should stick to girls that are 8/10 too, the same attraction level as him? There's a hole in your advice man and it's lacking the sufficiency to actually give him anything useful to take away. I think you need to re-assess the way you give advice to someone who is struggling so that they can feel more confident about themselves instead of assuming their attractiveness (or lack their of) is the main cause for of the problem instead of giving the grand solution and have them believe it because you didn't bother to ask for an image of him to see if he is indeed not worthy of approaching women of high caliber. Stop assuming, it's not doing anyone any justice.

Author:	debugger [ Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:40 pm ]
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"I`m shit with girls" Did you approach at least 100 women in your life to decide if you are shit with girls?

Author:	SexAddict911 [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:01 am ]
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Quote: I never said anywhere that I had complete confidence...I iterated that I was becoming confident in myself for going out of my comfort zone to better myself in the sense in which I posted, but I never said I had complete confidence. Don't make another assumption. And dude, it's pretty clear to what I'm disagreeing with... You're telling the gent that he must stick to girls that are on the same scale of attractiveness as him. That is what I believe is the wrong social stigmatic that is embedded within our society today and that is why alot of guys out there unhappy and unsatisfied in their relationships and their circles in which they communicate to one another. Let's break your advice down Quote: If you are lets say a 6/10, you should only approach women that are 6/10. What is wrong there is that you're assuming Razorlight isn't an attractive dude. Hell, I don't even know what he looks like and I'm not even assuming here. For all we know he could be a pretty decent good looking guy who girls might fancy him being an 8 or close to a 9 even if he's lucky, but he's "Shit" with girls and he wants to know how get to better with them so that's why he's come here for help. Think about this for a second. Let's just say, for arguments sake, that Razorblade is infact a good looking dude and girls see him as... an 8 in their minds yeah? So does that mean that (contrary to your advice) he should stick to girls that are 8/10 too, the same attraction level as him? There's a hole in your advice man and it's lacking the sufficiency to actually give him anything useful to take away. I think you need to re-assess the way you give advice to someone who is struggling so that they can feel more confident about themselves instead of assuming their attractiveness (or lack their of) is the main cause for of the problem instead of giving the grand solution and have them believe it because you didn't bother to ask for an image of him to see if he is indeed not worthy of approaching women of high caliber. Stop assuming, it's not doing anyone any justice. DUDE what is wrong with you.....YOU DID IT AGAIN. you are the only one assuming. I said "lets say" I never once assumed this man was any "rating" I just used 6 as an example. YOU are the only one assuming. You went on another rant about nothing. LOL you have the right to your opinion. But don't trash my advice under false pretense.

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Author:	SexAddict911 [ Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:10 am ]
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And CHAI....if you want to be the "lets break down my advice" guy. I suggest you,. do it as a whole. Not one line from it. You said you do not have complete confidence yet you approach the highest quality women? That makes no sense. Also based on your words, I can see that you do not have a lot of experience with women. I suggest rather then blast my post. perhaps you should ask for some advice yourself.