Ok, I made the call, got her voice mail and left a message to get back to me when she has a minute.

But seriously, I'm not very hopeful here, even IFshe does, I'm not sure I'd wanna get into anything with this alcoholic bar fly. On the surface, she seems like she has her shit together, but once you get to know her you see her as she really is and that is... well... an alcoholic bar fly. Low quality date/person. And there really is no future with her while she drinks so much. I'll just be putting myself through some major bullshit if I continue to pursue her. I think it's just best to leave her be and chalk this up to a learning experience.

There is this cute black girl that works at the grocery store I go to. She seems to be around my age. We chat every time I go to her checkout. I'm thinking of fishing to see if she's attached, and if not I want to get her number or ask her out. Problem is theres always a line at her checkout. Anyone have any ideas on how to do this? Any help would be appreciated. I'm just starting out in the game.

She gave me a call back. I was confident and fun sounding. We chatted for about 7 minutes. At the end I asked her what her schedule looks like on Wed or Thurs maybe we could go bowling or shoot pool and have a couple drinks. She said she'd have to get back to me because she didn't know how she would feel. I told her when she knew for sure to shoot me a text or call me. We said bye and hung up. It was a pleasant call.

Maybe she was blowing me off or maybe she was just hung over from Cinco de mayo and still feeling queezy. Hard to tell.

You're getting played, because you're letting yourself get played.

She LOVES your attention, but not your dick.

Remember the advice I posted earlier in this thread? That you continued to ignore? That you should blow her off?


Also whenever you hit up a woman for a date, asking her schedule is passive. This woman has not earned the right for you to give a fuck about her schedule. You are the MAN. You set the date, time and place, and it firmly.

You: "Hey, I'm grabbing a drink Tuesday night, Bar x, 9 pm. You're welcome to join."

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Why do women have to be around your age? This is nice guy pleaser bullshit mentality.

There are millions of young women who are looking for fit, older men because, honestly, most guys takes decades to not act like children.

Age does not matter for men in pickup, fitness does.

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This.



As far as gaming the clerk, I don't have a whole lot of successful experiences with that. Perhaps something like having her give you a pen. Then write your name and number on your receipt and give it to her. Tell her that she seems cool and to call or text you after she gets of work. You're not asking her a question, it's not needy or creepy, YOU are TELLING her she is good enough to chill with YOU, and it puts the ball in her court to actually contact you first to show her interest.

Just whatever you do, don't ask her anything in question form. You simply state how everything is and what you are going to do and show your intent and maintain a solid confident frame.

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The age is just my preference. I've always had a thing for cougars. Even at 18 I was banging cougars in their 40's.

I just decided to leave the bar fly alone. I'm over it already. I deleted all her contact info off my phone. She is incredibly rude and self-centered. Again, thank you guys.

I tried to save you a bit of annoyance, lol.

Did you reach out again and get slapped?

These are the kind of women who aren't forthright. I have no problem walking away from 20-somethings without a wrinkle on their ass who act like this.

A 40 year who acts like this would be blown off immediately.

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No I did not reach out again. I was just thinking more and watching Coach Corey Wayne videos and suddenly grew some balls and thought that someone that fucking disrespectful doesn't deserve any of my time or even space on my phone. So all I did was just have another epiphany and thought better of myself. I don't have any of her contact information so I can't reach out to her even IF I were to get weak again. LOL
I also deleted all the call histories with her number in it.

She's just a piece of shit person. I'm mildly embarrassed at having a thing for her in the first place.

lol, that's awesome.

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